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Steven Evans
(Steve_Evans) - MLife

Locale: Canada
BC Boiler -> get 'em while you can! on 11/19/2010 12:52:42 MST Print View

Orders stop at midnight tonight so get 'em while you can!

Michael Davis
(mad777) - F

Locale: South Florida
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/19/2010 13:13:09 MST Print View

I jumped on this one early in the count! Other forums are talking this up also (i.e. HammockForums.net)

I'm really glad to see Devin's dream coming true. Few would have had the perseverance that he has demonstrated, which we will all benefit from now. Thanks Devin!

My current go-to stove system is a Caldera Cone alky stove with a Vargo 0.9L ti pot. I only do "freezer bag cooking." I figure that I will save about 2/3s of the weight and volume carried when I also factor in the fuel.

Edited by mad777 on 11/19/2010 13:14:08 MST.

Adam Kramer
(rbeard) - M

Locale: ATL, Southern Appalachia
could it be? on 11/19/2010 13:16:53 MST Print View

just put two and two together and think i figured out where Devin probably got the original inspiration for his kettle design....

devo


COOK IT GOOD! Cant wait to get mine.

(sorry, couldnt resist, happy friday)

Edited by rbeard on 11/19/2010 13:19:00 MST.

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Re : Devins Kettle on 11/19/2010 14:02:08 MST Print View

My Bushbuddy Ultra may be up for sale once i test out Devins Kettle. :)

Michael Davis
(mad777) - F

Locale: South Florida
Re: Re : Devins Kettle on 11/19/2010 17:56:04 MST Print View

Mike, Don't forget to sell your pot also! :)

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - M

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/21/2010 17:34:13 MST Print View

Congratulations, Devin!

Good job.

HJ

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Re: Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/21/2010 18:48:31 MST Print View

Hey, thanks all!

There will be regular updates to the blog until these puppies are shipped. As I said there, the support from customers and people who just think it's cool has been humbling.

Thanks. :)

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - M

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Backcountry Boiler -- Site Down? on 12/03/2010 18:35:18 MST Print View

Hey, Devin,

It looks like the Backcountry Boiler web site is down as of 12/3/2010 17:35 (PST).

HJ

Steven Evans
(Steve_Evans) - MLife

Locale: Canada
Re: Backcountry Boiler -- Site Down? on 12/03/2010 18:46:00 MST Print View

Works for me. Maybe give it another try.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - M

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Backcountry Boiler -- Site Up on 12/03/2010 19:56:44 MST Print View

Yep, it's up. Must have been a temporary glitch.

HJ

Jeff Antig
(Antig)

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 12/04/2010 15:15:35 MST Print View

A wonderfully designed boiler made by one of our own. Exciting!

Alan Bradley
(ahbradley) - M
What about a gasifier kettle? on 02/05/2011 04:15:21 MST Print View

What about a gasifier kettle? Tos save even more fuel?

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: What about a gasifier kettle? on 02/05/2011 06:01:02 MST Print View

Somehow, I must have missed the posts before this. I'm glad the site didn't implode. And thanks for the kind words, Jeff!

I think you just blew my mind, Alan. :) I haven't run any tests to determine how complete the combustion is with the Boiler. It's kind of a chaotic system in there and conditions change based on the state of the fuel used as well how densely packed it is in the chimney. On one hand, you can break up some twigs very small and batch load it like is done with gasifiers, on the other, you can also break them up into larger pieces and add them as you go - that flexibility is something I think is a real advantage.

But getting back to your point, more complete combustion would increase efficiency, so would doing something like making the chimney another several inches taller. The latter would actually both aid in combustion by increasing the internal draft as well as catching more of the exhaust heat.

In the tests I did perform, though, I found that it took just about 2 oz (a decent-sized handful) to boil 20 oz (so a bit less for the now-recommended 16). The thing to remember about wood stoves is that since you don't have to carry the fuel, it's environmental impact rather than pack weight that drives you towards efficiency. Given how small this already impact is, and that almost any measure to increase efficiency would add weight or complexity, I went the way I did.

But would I like to see a gasifier kettle? Heck yes. I bet you could just toss the kettle on top of a Bushbuddy...

Vincent Krische
(vkrische) - M
Double Wall? on 02/12/2011 01:44:00 MST Print View

Is the outside of the water vessel double walled?

Steven Evans
(Steve_Evans) - MLife

Locale: Canada
Re: Double Wall? on 02/12/2011 16:10:23 MST Print View

It's kinda double wall in that the water is held by an outside wall and an inside wall. But I think you are asking if the outside wall itself is double wall, in which case it's just single wall. The neoprene cozy allows you to pick it up when water is boiling and probably helps reduce heat loss to some extent. If you google "chimney kettle" and look at the images you can see the basic layout.

Vincent Krische
(vkrische) - M
What what!? on 02/13/2011 16:57:37 MST Print View

Like:
Outside air:Neoprene:Metal:Air Gap:Metal:Water

Does that make sense?

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: What what!? on 02/13/2011 17:31:18 MST Print View

Ourtside air : Neoprene : Metal : Water (or air if the water is low) : Metal : Air (burn chamber)

Steve Martell
(Steve) - MLife

Locale: Eastern Washington
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 06/10/2011 12:33:10 MDT Print View

Nine hours to go! Good luck Devin.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1763800459/backcountry-boiler-hot-water-from-found-fuel

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 06/10/2011 14:56:34 MDT Print View

Thanks, Steve! I hope you and some of the other really early guys know that if you hadn't been there to say "yeah, that's cool," this probably wouldn't have gotten past the aluminum bottle stage.

Oh, and it is soooo close to 60K! It's not even about the small number of extra sales it takes to get there. I just want a nice round number. :)

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Sweet! on 06/10/2011 18:35:15 MDT Print View

Glad I saw this thread in time! Very inspiring to see the progression of your idea. Had to order the Signature model to do my part to get you up to that 60k mark. Good luck!