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Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler)
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Steve Martell
(Steve) - MLife

Locale: Eastern Washington
Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/14/2010 10:32:21 MST Print View

http://www.theboilerwerks.com/pre-order/



For 3-season use you can't get much lighter than this.

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/14/2010 14:22:17 MST Print View

Thanks Steve!

I hope everyone on here who made a reservation or signed up for the mailing list has gotten a note about ordering there bad boys - I've been having some email problems.

And I have even made use out of it in the 4th season: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41308912@N04/4409707954/. :)

Rog Tallbloke
(tallbloke) - F

Locale: DON'T LOOK DOWN!!
Re: Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/14/2010 16:02:03 MST Print View

Nice pages and all the best with the project, this really deserves to succeed. And that's an awesomely good intro price too, when you compare to a bushbuddy which weighs only a few oz less, and doesn't come with integral boiling pot, windsheild, insulator, etc etc.

Steven Evans
(Steve_Evans) - MLife

Locale: Canada
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/14/2010 20:00:29 MST Print View

I'm pretty hyped about this little kettle. Placed my order on friday night. Can't wait to get it.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/14/2010 21:38:55 MST Print View

I'll order one eventually. I got real excited at first because I was thinking this would be perfect for making my 2 week trip next month a little more pleasurable.

BER ---
(BER) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Boiler on 11/14/2010 21:56:00 MST Print View

Good Job Devin!
I look forward to trying mine.
Funds sent.

Duane Hall
(PKH) - M

Locale: Nova Scotia
Boiler on 11/15/2010 02:03:01 MST Print View

Looks fantastic; funds sent, and I'm really looking forward to using the thing.

Cheers

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Boiler on 11/15/2010 08:51:32 MST Print View

Hey, thanks guys! It's so exciting to finally be to this point, and I can't wait to hear what you all think about it once it's in your hands.

Forbes Belk
(ForbesB) - F

Locale: Bay Area
Re: on 11/15/2010 10:35:29 MST Print View

Definitely gonna have to order one of these puppies. Great work Devin, now if they just don't preorder out before my next paycheck comes in.

Rob Bouchard
(MrZsasz) - M
Hooked me on 11/15/2010 16:19:01 MST Print View

See, this is why I stayed away from your thread. I just knew it would be trouble. Bought and paid last night. Too cool to pass up.....

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Orange County, CA, USA
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/15/2010 17:12:11 MST Print View

All right, so I'm a bit "late to the party here" in that I haven't read all the posts that lead up to the Backcountry Boiler's being finally available, but: Is there a reason that the base is so small? It seems like the boiler would tip over very easily.

HJ

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/15/2010 19:47:40 MST Print View

I hope everyone on here who made a reservation or signed up for the mailing list has gotten a note about ordering there bad boys - I've been having some email problems.

I was wondering what happened to the kettle, since I never heard anything since the summer. This is the first I've become aware of there being any progress with the designs. I hope I don't lose my place in line and my chance to order!

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/15/2010 21:21:01 MST Print View

Hi Miguel,

Gosh, I'm sorry! I have you on the list (#18), but it looks like your address didn't survive the trip from excel to gmail. Your boiler is waiting for you if you'll have us back. :) I'll email you what you've missed, and make sure you get all future messages.

Hi Jim - The bottom of the base is relatively small because it flips and nests inside the conical chimney for transport. I've used my prototype everywhere from talus fields to a stick platform on snow and not really had any problems - I think it looks more unstable than it really is. If one wanted to be extra sure, stakes or some rocks could be used to really keep it in place.

Eric Fredricksen
(efredricksen) - MLife

Locale: Silicon Valley
Neoprene? on 11/15/2010 22:03:32 MST Print View

Apologies if this has been covered previously, but why a relatively heavy neoprene sleeve rather than Reflectix? or fiberglass? (Or silicone if that's by chance lighter.)

Awesome project with a great result.

Landon Schrock
(lschrock) - F

Locale: The plain states
Great design on 11/16/2010 07:08:44 MST Print View

This is so simple, it's a genius design. As an only cooker, would this be as efficient as one of the caldera systems if only boiling water? Weight ratio vs. Size?

Andrei Tudor
(andrei_tudor) - M
Re: Montgomery Kettle (now the Backcountry Boiler) on 11/16/2010 12:50:15 MST Print View

Really cool design, but I can't see how this would be lighter than a pot / stove combo. You can't cook in the kettle, so you'd have to carry an extra pot / mug anyway.

Konrad .
(Konrad1013) - MLife
Boil in Bag on 11/16/2010 12:51:12 MST Print View

Andrei, you're right, but for people who are only doing boil in bag meals/FBC (like myself), this is awesome.

Edited by Konrad1013 on 11/16/2010 12:52:38 MST.

Duane Hall
(PKH) - M

Locale: Nova Scotia
Re: Great design on 11/16/2010 12:59:50 MST Print View

Well, I have two Caldera Cone systems, and enjoy using them very much. I've also had fun with a 19 ounce Kelly Kettle. That said, I look forward to using my 6.5 to 8 ounce Boilerwerks wood burner. You speak of weight ration vs. size, but don't forget, with the wood burner you are not lugging fuel. I love all of these pieces of kit, and I expect to love the new lighter kettle too.

Andrei Tudor
(andrei_tudor) - M
Re: Re: Great design on 11/16/2010 13:15:25 MST Print View

I agree with these 2 comments (yours and Konrad's), I just thought I was missing something here.

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Re: Great design on 11/16/2010 13:33:59 MST Print View

Thanks all! Those explanations are at least as good as those I could give. :)

On the neoprene, Eric - I'm kind of a material snob and Neoprene has a lot going for it. I couldn't find anything that could do all of what I wanted the sleeve to do as well as neoprene - insulate for lifting, protect the kettle, not slide off. Even though it's a bit heavy, the material has a lot of integral characteristics that make it an elegant solution.

I find both reflectix and fiberglass rather ugly. Both would also require some kind of adhesive to fix them to the kettle wall and I didn't want to do that. And fiberglass can splinter.

Since silicone is, loosely, a rubber rather than a foam, it's actually heavier per volume than neoprene.

Having said that, I do offer the bare kettle for those who want to experiment. The lightest and most multi-function option I've come up with is folding it up in a handkerchief in transport and then rolling the handkerchief up and looping it around the boiler to lift it. It takes some practice, but can be done. I'll probably need to provide an illustration of that technique at some point.

Edit: Sorry for misspelling your name Eric!

Edited by dsmontgomery on 11/16/2010 14:35:48 MST.