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Josh Newkirk
(Newkirk) - MLife

Locale: Australia
New sleeping bag on 11/07/2010 16:07:12 MST Print View

At the moment i have a montbell super spiral bag rated for 15 degrees. Im thinking that i need a different bag for the summer. Im thinking somewhere between 30 and 40 degrees.

Should i get a feathered friends bag rated for 30, a WM highlite or summerlite, or a montbell ul super spiral down hugger 3 or 5?

Or what about even the marmot pounder?

Edited by Newkirk on 11/07/2010 16:16:45 MST.

Ultralite Hiker
(Ultralite) - F
Lafuma x600 on 11/07/2010 17:43:17 MST Print View

Lafuma x600 Cheap and light. It is 45 degrees, if it is enough for you I can confidently recommend it. I have taken it to 50 without trouble, so I do not think 45 would be an issue.

http://www.rei.com/product/798906

Edited by Ultralite on 11/07/2010 17:45:19 MST.

Josh Newkirk
(Newkirk) - MLife

Locale: Australia
lafuma on 11/07/2010 18:01:53 MST Print View

Rob, do you think between my 15 and this 45 i can cover most of the year in the pacific nw?

Josh Newkirk
(Newkirk) - MLife

Locale: Australia
sleeping bag on 11/07/2010 22:10:30 MST Print View

any other sleepin bag people would recommend for these conditions?

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(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: New sleeping bag on 11/07/2010 22:22:58 MST Print View

Western Mountaineering HighLite for PNW year-round in the lowlands; 3-season in the mountains.

Edited by biointegra on 11/08/2010 00:32:36 MST.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F
sale on 11/07/2010 23:06:25 MST Print View

whatever en-rated 800 fill sleeping bag with a full zip is on sale after xmas ... you wont need it till next summer anyways ... lol

Allen Butts
(butts0989) - F - MLife

Locale: Northern Rockies
WM summerlite on 11/07/2010 23:06:42 MST Print View

Well i guess ill rep the summerlite here. Its an awesome summer bag as well as an all around 3 season bag. I prefer it over the highlite because of its continuous baffle construction which gives you the ability to shift the down around from the bottom to the top. If you're willing to spend the money i can tell you first hand it a great bag.

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Re: WM summerlite on 11/07/2010 23:14:03 MST Print View

I'll +1 for the SummerLite.

I've mostly used two bags since January in Montana this year: the BPL UL 240 Quilt and the WM SummerLite.

The SummerLite is the warmest full-zippered sleeping bag I've ever used for its weight. I further lightened it by hacking out the lower half of the zipper and sewing it shut down there. I highly recommend that modification if you can stomach the reduction of girth in the lower half of the bag by an inch. It saves a couple ounces.

Combined with the UL 240 Quilt, I have a < 3 lb setup that has taken me to minus 10 in great comfort (I've not used it below those temps yet).

The disadvantage to the SummerLite relative to the other bags you mention is its narrow girth. Especially when compared to the MontBell Huggers -- the MontBell bags are astoundingly comfortable, and they are truly onto something magical with that Super Stretch system. I love these bags, too, and recommend them above most others to all but the hardcore, because they come with a little bit of a weight penalty.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F
rating on 11/07/2010 23:17:50 MST Print View

odd that the summerlite is en rated to +2C lower limit comfort ... or 35F

Josh Newkirk
(Newkirk) - MLife

Locale: Australia
bags on 11/07/2010 23:22:57 MST Print View

according to the specs i have looked at the summerlite is the same weight as the montbell ul super spiral 3.

considering this though do you think that only paying 200 for the montbell on sale is worth it over the summerlite?

also is it worth the extra 2 ounces and 30 bucks to have super spiral rather then normal spiral?

Edited by Newkirk on 11/08/2010 00:00:04 MST.

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
New sleeping bag on 11/08/2010 01:46:46 MST Print View

The Western Mountaineering bag will be warmer than the Montbell bag however you have to list your priorities before pulling the trigger. What's more important:

- warmth to weight?
- price?
- comfort?

The Montbell bag will be cheaper and definitely more comfortable if you like to move around in your bag (the Super Spiral is worth it if you want more room). For me, price didn't matter and weight/warmth was secondary to comfort, so I went for the Montbell. They have very different features.

carl becker
(carlbecker) - F

Locale: Northern Virginia
Re: New sleeping bag on 11/08/2010 05:21:04 MST Print View

I use a Montbell spiral #3 as my only bag. It would probably be a bit much above 50 degrees. It is very comfortable but the zip only goes 1/2 way. At 20 oz with added clothing taking it lower it works for me. I did get a WM for my daughter as she only needs a short version. Either way you will be getting a good bag just decide what is most important.

Ultralite Hiker
(Ultralite) - F
Re: lafuma on 11/08/2010 07:21:14 MST Print View

"Rob, do you think between my 15 and this 45 i can cover most of the year in the pacific nw?"

I have not done any backpacking in the PNW.

Does your current 15 degree bag zip out to a quilt? If so, I think your 15 degree bag, and the 45 degree bag I recommended would be all you needed.

I have a 25 degree bag, WM Alder MF, and I use it from about 20 degrees to around 45 degrees. At 45 I switch to the bag I recommended.

Edited by Ultralite on 11/08/2010 11:35:50 MST.

Richard Nisley
(richard295) - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Summerlight EN Rating on 11/08/2010 11:26:58 MST Print View

Eric,

Please share your source for this bag's EN 13537 test rating.

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(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: Re: Summerlight EN Rating on 11/08/2010 11:44:54 MST Print View

"The SummerLite is the warmest full-zippered sleeping bag I've ever used for its weight. I further lightened it by hacking out the lower half of the zipper and sewing it shut down there. I highly recommend that modification if you can stomach the reduction of girth in the lower half of the bag by an inch. It saves a couple ounces."

You turned it into a Highlite(!) ;) (of course with a nicer hood and baffles - but who needs those at 35 degrees. That actually sounds like a great set-up.

@OP - The montbell UL Spiral #3 (not super-stretch) sounds like it would be a good value for you and if you change your mind, it should be easy to sell on the Gear Swap. I would suggest not mulling over the decision too much, since you can always sell there if you change your mind. It can be quite the fun to try different bags as well and will help you to fine-tune your kit and preferences.

Edited by biointegra on 11/08/2010 11:45:52 MST.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F
richard on 11/08/2010 12:42:15 MST Print View

Eric,

Please share your source for this bag's EN 13537 test rating


Komfortbereich (abhängig von Geschlecht, Körperstatur etc.) ca 2°C für Männer, ca. 6°C für Frauen nach EN-Norm 13537-2002

http://www.sackundpack.de/product_info.php?products_id=1627

Temperaturbereiche, gemäß EU-Norm 13537 (°C):
+6 +2 -14

http://www.super-tramp.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p3219_Western-Mountaineering-Summerlite-red.html

Edited by bearbreeder on 11/08/2010 12:50:25 MST.

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(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: richard on 11/08/2010 13:34:06 MST Print View

Vielen dank, Eric. Ich war auch neugierig, wo du hast diese EN Zahlen gefunden.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F
np on 11/08/2010 13:37:41 MST Print View

ca va rien monsieur ... lol

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(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: np on 11/08/2010 13:42:33 MST Print View

ah, Oui merci beau coup, d'autant plus!

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: np on 11/08/2010 14:24:25 MST Print View

Summerlite