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WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3
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Andy Anderson
(ianders) - F

Locale: Southeast
WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3 on 10/01/2010 06:29:08 MDT Print View

WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3. Simple question, I am sure it has been covered many times before, but which one would you go with? And what do you feel is a realistic temperature range?

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
summerlite on 10/01/2010 07:02:05 MDT Print View

can't comment on the montbell, but the summerlite is a very (very) high quality bag w/ an accurate temp rating- 30 degrees, obviously this could be pushed a bit w/ insulated clothing. I had to trade mine off though as it was too tight (I'm 6' 190#), it's definitely a trim cut- but if it fits it's definitely a keeper :)

Scott Lehr
(lehrscott4) - F

Locale: Louisville - KY
Montbell on 10/01/2010 07:14:26 MDT Print View

I recently aquired a new/old Montbell UL super stretch #2 and i got a chance to try it out last weekend, and i must say that im hooked. I have been using a WM Irquois thats about 10 years old now, and the Montbell is far roomier, and just as light. Personally I had bad experiences with zipper failures a year after buying my Western Mountaineering bag. IMO its not worth the extra money over the Montbell.

carl becker
(carlbecker) - F

Locale: Northern Virginia
montbell on 10/01/2010 08:43:24 MDT Print View

I choose the Montbell Stretch Hugger #3 as I wanted a bit more room. I have about 12 days in it and am happy. It was a bit cheaper but I would have purchased the other also. I will wear layers to increase comfort in lower temps.

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3 on 10/01/2010 09:00:32 MDT Print View

A friend of mine uses Montbell, and based on his comments I'd say if you move during the night, go with the Montbell.

It's "give" is a plus.

Tad Englund
(bestbuilder) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3 on 10/01/2010 10:14:16 MDT Print View

Andy, if you read any previous threads on this or look at the reviews (buy a membership) you will get a totally different response then those above.
Its hard to beat the Summerlite, it is best in its class. Bar none!
YMMV

Edited by bestbuilder on 10/01/2010 10:14:55 MDT.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Re: WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3 on 10/01/2010 10:30:43 MDT Print View

I own two MontBell bags and have fondled with WM Summerlite and Ultralite bags. My views:

1. You won't go wrong with either. Both are first rate.
2. MB warmth rating is "spot on" for me. All the feedback I've read over the last 4-5 years, most people feel the same -- with a minority writing that they felt cold at the rated temps.
3. WM -- the majority actually felt the bags conservatively rated -- meaning warmer than rated. Only a small minority felt cold in their WM's at rated temps.
4. MB shell /liner material feels noticeably softer and comfier than WM (although WM material is plenty soft and plenty comfy).

So how to decide?

1. If you are a bigger than average guy -- the Summerlite cut may be too constricting for you. Go for the MB with its highly-rated stretch feature.

2. If you sleep cold or you anticipate temps down to 25F -- maybe go for the Summerlite. OTOH, one thing to also consider is that when temps drop below 30F -- the super stretch MB may be more conducive to layering than the more narrowly cut and less stretchable WM.

But really, at the end, both are great bags and it's hard to go wrong with either.

Don Selesky
(backslacker) - M
Re: WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3 on 10/01/2010 11:42:02 MDT Print View

Another vote for either bag. Both are high quality, but I'd give the nod to WM for being maybe a bit higher quality.

If you can live with the inner dimensions of a WM bag, you can't go wrong. The MontBell bags, however, give you the ability to stretch out, and if necessary wear your regular insulated clothing inside the bag without overcompressing either.

Brad Groves
(4quietwoods) - MLife

Locale: Michigan
Re: WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3 on 10/01/2010 12:10:48 MDT Print View

I haven't handled a Montbell sleeping bag that was as well filled as a Western bag. Apples to apples, Westerns are more densely filled, ie no cold spots. Most people will find the Summerlite more accurately rated of the two. Although a cold sleeper, I've used the Summerlite (w/adequate pad insulation) below freezing happily.

If, by chance, you're a bigger guy and want more room in a bag, the MegaLite is the wider cut version of the Summerlite. Or you could get the expander panel, but probably just go w/wider bag.

Andy Anderson
(ianders) - F

Locale: Southeast
Sounds like Summerlite is the way to go. on 10/01/2010 12:30:55 MDT Print View

I am about 5'11" and 170 lb. I pretty much wear a medium in all clothes. Athletic, runner build. Am I going to feel like I am being held hostage in this bag? Is it really cut that much smaller than most bags?

Brad Groves
(4quietwoods) - MLife

Locale: Michigan
Re: Sounds like Summerlite is the way to go. on 10/01/2010 12:33:59 MDT Print View

Andy, I think most people get too carried away talking about the cut of the Summerlite. I'm 5'6 and 165; I feel like the Summerlite has extra room that I don't need. My taller, skinnier friend does prefer a wider cut. But bottom line, I think you'll fit fine in the Summerlite. FWIW, I'm a side sleeper and tosser/turner... roll with the bag and it's a beautiful thing.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: Sounds like Summerlite is the way to go. on 10/01/2010 12:41:56 MDT Print View

I could fit in my summerlite, it's just that is was tight- mostly notably so in the shoulders. I think as the above poster stated, if your 170 and more of a runner's build you'll probably be fine. Worse case scenario- you won't have ANY trouble getting rid of it (or sending it back depending on where you purchase it)- WM bags go for premium prices even if used.

Tad Englund
(bestbuilder) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Sounds like Summerlite is the way to go. on 10/01/2010 13:38:37 MDT Print View

Andy, I am 6'2" and 175 lbs. I had the larger Megalite (to big) and sold it to get the summerlite. The fit is great!

Andy Anderson
(ianders) - F

Locale: Southeast
Sealed the deal!! on 10/01/2010 13:43:51 MDT Print View

Tad, I think you just said the magic words!!!

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
WM Summerlite vs. Montbell Super Stretch Down Hugger #3 on 10/01/2010 14:44:22 MDT Print View

I considered both these bags this year and went with the Montbell.

I think you should look at these two bags as meeting completely different needs. If you typically toss and turn and like to stretch out a bit while you sleep get the Montbell bag, the WM bag can't compete in this category. That was the deciding factor for me when I bought my MB UL Super Spiral #3 this year. Great bag, I've never been more comfortable.

If I had wanted to stick with a slim cut bag (like my old bag) then I'd have gone with the Western Mountaineering bag. I think WM makes fantastic bags and they are a bit lighter.

Edited by skopeo on 10/01/2010 14:46:57 MDT.

Andy Anderson
(ianders) - F

Locale: Southeast
Decided to go with the Summerlite on 10/01/2010 14:49:59 MDT Print View

Already bought the Summerlite. Got it on Gear Swap from Brad Rogers. I'll let you know how it is. Brad gave me lots of info on both bags and didn't try to push it on me. Seems like a great guy. $215...pretty good deal...it think.

Tad Englund
(bestbuilder) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Decided to go with the Summerlite on 10/01/2010 15:33:51 MDT Print View

Andy, $215 is a steal (great deal)
No way can any bag compete at that price!

Chris Benson
(roguenode) - F

Locale: Boulder
Summerlite fit on 10/01/2010 15:58:55 MDT Print View

"Andy, I am 6'2" and 175 lbs. I had the larger Megalite (to big) and sold it to get the Summerlite. The fit is great!"

Tad (or anyone else with an opinion on Summerlite/Megalite fit), can you wear a down sweater and use the Summerlite comfortably? I have a Megalite and love it, but would switch if I could layer and fit.

Edit: I'm 6'1"/175#

Edited by roguenode on 10/01/2010 16:01:34 MDT.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
down jacket on 10/01/2010 16:47:50 MDT Print View

I'm 6' 190 stocky build and I couldn't use a down jacket very well- one of the reasons I went to the fuller cut Marmot (Hydrogen)

I think if your build is on the slimmer side, you probably could

$215 for a summerlite is indeed a good deal :)

Chris Benson
(roguenode) - F

Locale: Boulder
Might work for me on 10/01/2010 17:12:47 MDT Print View

I have a slim build so it sounds like it's worth considering. Wish there was somewhere near me to try one out. I got a great price on the Megalite and don't want to end up re-buying at normal prices.

No doubt, $215 for a true 32 degree bag of WM quality is a sweat deal.