Advice on Rain skirt
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Richard Rini
(rarini) - MLife

Locale: Southeast
Advice on Rain skirt on 09/30/2010 08:47:42 MDT Print View

Can anybody give me some advice on fabricating a rain skirt from eVent material?

I have a sufficient amount to easily make a rain skirt. Once I got the fabric in my hands it became apparent that it may be designed to be coupled with (layered) another material. It just seems a bit fragile and that lends me to believe it is an inner layer??

Any suggestions or assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Ric

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: Advice on Rain skirt on 09/30/2010 08:58:06 MDT Print View

Richard,

given eVent's price and how great it performs, I wouldn't use it for a rain skirt at all. Go with silnyon 2nds, etc.

The skirt will breathe by default since it is open at the bottom. Therefore the strength of eVent (breathability) is unnecessary. I'd hate to shred eVent on thorns when another fabric will do the job.

Come to think of it, just send it all to me!!!! :)

Let us know what you decide, and post pics!

Todd

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
Polycryo rain skirt on 12/30/2010 11:20:24 MST Print View

What about using the polycryo storm window material, like the Gossamer Gear ground cloth?
Very light, inexpensive, reasonably strong and can double as a ground cloth.

Maybe attach elastic belt with clear plastic tape?

Dylan Snodgrass
(TrueNorth)

Locale: San Francisco, CA
Advice on Rain skirt on 12/30/2010 11:53:41 MST Print View

The garbage bag method.

As The Crow Flies» Blog Archive » Gear Review:Garbage bag rain skirt. http://bit.ly/hC2I6r

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
The garbage bag method. on 12/30/2010 12:12:19 MST Print View

I got the idea from Crow:-)

The polycryo would be as light if not lighter than a trash bag, but far more durable and can double as a ground cloth. That stuff is pretty tuff for it's weight.

I always tend to rip trash bags too easy.

I just now found that I was able to wrap a 42" X 96" plycryo sheet around my waist and just tie a knot in the corners. It stayed on and worked very well. No bungee or other method to hold it in place was needed.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: The garbage bag method. on 12/30/2010 12:41:41 MST Print View

It takes 96 inches to go around your waist?

--B.G.--

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
96" on 12/30/2010 12:47:13 MST Print View

Regarding the 96" length, that is the length that it comes in and a good length for a ground cloth in my shelter.

Henk Smees
(theflyingdutchman) - MLife

Locale: Spanish Mountains
Cuben rain skirt - thoughts on 12/30/2010 14:33:10 MST Print View

What do you guys think about a Cuben Rain Skirt? I have some Cuben (CT2K.08) left over from another project and thought I could use this for a Rain Skirt. If I would do so, I would pair it with some chaps as well but I’m worried about the strength of the Cuben. Would it be puncture resistant enough? With regards to abrasion, I thought of using a small patch of the lightest Cordura I can find at the lower end of the chaps, especially on the in-side, just like gaiters have. I would wait to find out how the Cuben behaves and, when time comes and it would work out to be necessary, I would glue (or sew) this patch afterwards.

And...... How would you cinch it around the waist? Thought about making a hem and use some narrow elastic braid like this (http://www.extremtextil.de/catalog/Braids/Elastics/Elastic-braid-010mm::526.html), or maybe a thin shock cord but...... Wouldn’t that tear the Cuben hem?

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: .
Re: Cuben rain skirt - thoughts on 12/30/2010 14:36:44 MST Print View

Cuben Rain Skirt

Henk Smees
(theflyingdutchman) - MLife

Locale: Spanish Mountains
Joe's kilt on 12/30/2010 14:55:54 MST Print View

Hi Chris,

Thanks - I know Joe’s kilt, but he uses the “heavy duty” Cuben (1.26 oz/sqyd) and all I have is the lighter stuff (CT2K.08), which I think is “only” .75 (27 gr/m2). That’s why I’m worried about it not being puncture resistant enough (not that much about the skirt, it’s the chaps that are more prone to failures in this aspect).

Anyone tried making a skirt / chaps with CT2K.08 and is willing to share experience?

Thom Darrah
(thomdarrah) - MLife

Locale: Southern Oregon
Advice on Rain Skirt - cuben CloudKilt on 12/30/2010 15:01:23 MST Print View

The TrailLite Designs CloudKilt will also be available in white .74 cuben early in 2011.

Thom
TrailLite Designs

Roleigh Martin
(marti124) - MLife

Locale: Moderator-JohnMuirTrail Yahoo Group
Re: Joe's kilt on 12/30/2010 15:02:13 MST Print View

I just received Joe's cloud kilt (designed by TrailLite Designs) today. Looking forward to using it in the field. I had/have the ULA rain wrap kilt too but in a prolonged rain, it would get so wet, it was like wearing a wet towel. I think cuben fiber is more waterproof (it is not porous), so I hope it will serve better as a kilt in a real rain situation than the ULA one.

I also like the kilt as a foot towel, sitting towel, when taking a break.

Last, Joe's kilt is 1/2 the weight of the ULA Rain wrap (but more expensive though).

Last, it does serve as a modesty wrap when bathing too.

Edited by marti124 on 12/30/2010 15:30:14 MST.

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
Wet on 12/31/2010 06:45:14 MST Print View

Hey Roleigh,

I don't think you'll see much of a reduction in the wetness going from silnylon to cuben. They are both waterproof materials.

Most of the wetness I experience under a skirt is from splash and condensation. There just isn't any way to get away from that. The beauty of a skirt is that it blocks the wind reducing chill and the open bottom allows water to drain out and the extra ventilation reduces the condensation.

Trash bag, silnylon, cuben, or breathable fabric wouldn't make much difference.

Cuben of course is the best material for it's strength and weight.