the "Do it all Pack"
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Nat Lim
(LithiumMetalman) - F

Locale: Cesspool Central!
the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 14:13:35 MDT Print View

Hey folks!

An exercise of thought!

Choosing the right tool for the right job is ideal in most situations, especially for those with multi-sport interests. Having a quiver of packs for the right job can make or break the experience (Highly subjective, but as long as one is having fun, that is most important).

However, lets say theoretically, if you had to choose one pack, and only one pack to do all the activities that you love to do, what would it be and why?

Eg. I love climbing, backpacking overnighters + week long, summer alpine, day-hikes, etc (some trail work) if I was forced to choose only one pack, it would have to be my trustworthy, albeit heavy,

Arc-teryx Bora 50

Due to the size, toughness and useful features (the Kangaroo pocket rocks), it has yet to let me down.

Thoughts, pokes and reminiscing welcomed.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
"the "Do it all Pack"" on 09/16/2010 14:22:41 MDT Print View

GoLite Peak. It shrinks enough for a day pack and holds enough for a three day with 3-season gear. It fits me and has the outside pockets I wanted.

I'd ramp up to a Jam for more room, but I don't normally do week-long trips--- I could easily be convinced ;)

Trevor Shrade
(TrevMan3205) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 14:59:25 MDT Print View

I was just thinking about this recently and thought about the ULA Epic. It would work well for backpacking as well as canoeing trips (although it is kinda heavy). Does anyone else make a smaller/lighter version?

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 15:08:37 MDT Print View

I have an Exos 58 and a SMD Swift. I recently got an Osprey Talon 44 which looks to be a nice compromise between the two. Though I haven't tested it yet in winter or packrafting trips, I am hypothesizing it will work very well for any application. Though, I have heard if you hypothesize too much, you'll go blind....

Jonathan Ryan
(Jkrew81) - F - M

Locale: White Mtns
Re: the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 17:23:00 MDT Print View

I will second the SMD Swift. Good as a daypack or a weeks worth of supplies. That said my favorite is my ULA Circuit.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 17:45:08 MDT Print View

I really like the MLD Exodus. Although I don't usually use it for day hikes, the Exodus has a volume reduction system that gives it a wide range of uses:

From MLD:

"Total Maximum Volume: 3200ci main pack / 3600ci with filled extension collar

Minimum Volume: 1800ci with compression and bottom volume reduction system engaged."

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Re: the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 18:26:58 MDT Print View

Travis quipped: "Though, I have heard if you hypothesize too much, you'll go blind...."

That is now part of my personal lexicon! Perfect :)

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 18:34:48 MDT Print View

Probably a McHale. Either a larger LBP or a SARC.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Re: the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 19:17:57 MDT Print View

I want an extra large Golite Jam2 or similar...probably a lot like many Mchale offerings, although I don't think I'd be willing to spend that much (no offense to those that would- you're going to be excited to get that new pack Nick and I know you'll use it well).

The Jam2 does everything for me. It's never stopped me, but the only drawback has been capacity. So many packs overdo it: I don't want a frame and gadgets and load lifters and straps everywhere, just a simple, tough pack with more volume for bulky winter bags and insulation.

I'll probably end up sewing my own dyneema beast similar to David Chenault's recent MYOG creation.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: the "Do it all Pack" on 09/16/2010 20:56:32 MDT Print View

Arc-teryx Bora 50 - 4 lbs. 6oz? That's twice as heavy as my week-long pack, and seven times the weight of my weekend pack!!

As OP has implied -- there is no single pack that can "do it all" -- not superbly anyway.

But to join in the spirit of the post... if I can only have one pack... then I think it will be something a like an SMD pack -- I think dyneema is a sweet balance between light weight and durable -- with easily-removable stays to keep weight low or to increase carrying load -- as appropriate.

Edited by ben2world on 09/16/2010 20:59:26 MDT.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F
something durable for climbing on 09/16/2010 21:48:35 MDT Print View

osprey variant ... or some other dedicated climbing pack

climbing packs can be used for most other things .... but many other packs cannot be used for real climbing

it's going to have to deal with chimneys, the occasional haul, scree descents, bushwacking, etc ...

youre going to have to climb multiple pitches with it on so it has to be ultra comfortable as you cant assume that you can "take off the pack every stop" ...

it needs to be wearable with a harness on ... and should be decently comfortable without the waist belt on

mesh pockets will get torn to shreds, and you want a hydration pouch

etc ...

nothing kills a pack like rock climbing and scrambling

Edited by bearbreeder on 09/16/2010 21:54:16 MDT.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Do it all pack on 09/16/2010 21:59:10 MDT Print View

Ben, your dayhiking pack would not last more than a couple of hours climbing...

; )

I think the best do-it-all pack is a inherently a heavier pack because it must carry a load, be durable enough for climbing / scrambling, be large enough for multi-day hikes and yet compress enough for gear intensive day hikes.

Yup, a Mchale. Maybe a LBP 34 or 36?

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
"the "Do it all Pack"" on 09/16/2010 22:22:54 MDT Print View

MLD Exodus, durable dyneema, comfortable, and voluminous in size for bulky yet lightweight gear in winter. I don't climb, except on rare occasion sport climbing, I don't snowshoe or hunt, I can throw my Tenkara rod on anything, so the Exodus fits the bill for me.

carl becker
(carlbecker) - F

Locale: Northern Virginia
compromise on 09/17/2010 06:31:39 MDT Print View

IMHO the compromise for such different activies is far to great for just one pack. The changes between size, durability, weight and suspension are great. A durable, proper sized climbing pack could be used for day hiking but for a week long hike a lighter larger pack with great suspension would be my choice. A second pack is not that much expense or storage space compared to the other gear not to have what works best in the conditions you are in most often. I use a 18L daypack and 34L hiking pack for the two activities I do. Just like I have three shelters, one for family car camping, one for solo "good" weather and one for solo "harsh" weather. I do use one sleeping bag but can add layers to keep up with changing conditions to the point where I don't go out. But to answer the question my one pack would be the Aarn Marathon Magic 33 as it fills my longest hiking needs.

Edited by carlbecker on 09/17/2010 06:36:01 MDT.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: No "Do it all" Pack on 09/17/2010 08:34:47 MDT Print View

David wrote, "Ben, your dayhiking pack would not last more than a couple of hours climbing...".

I don't know of people "dumb enough" to do technical climbing with a tissue-thin silnylon backpack.

But then I am also not "dumb enough" to limit myself to just one ultra expensive pack -- picking one that can handle the longest and most challenging trips that I might make -- and then hauling out the same tough beast for a laid back summer overnight!! Maybe you do because Canadian summers are just so much more challenging...

I realize OP is just "shooting the breeze" and engaging in casual gear talk -- it can be entertaining (I participated above) -- but it's also just as useful as the older thread asking about putting together a "UL" system choosing only items available at REI. Entertaining maybe, but needlessly limiting -- and not very realistic -- or useful.

Edited by ben2world on 09/17/2010 08:41:21 MDT.

Jason McSpadden
(JBMcSr1) - M

Locale: Rocky Mountains
the Do it all Pack on 09/17/2010 08:47:06 MDT Print View

This is my first year using it but I like the Golite Pinnacle. 72 liter capacity and in the large weighs right at 2 pounds unmodified. It really worked well on a trip with a large group of guys and there was a considerable amount of "group" gear to carry and lots of food.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: the Do it all Pack on 09/17/2010 08:55:33 MDT Print View

Jason:

If you notice, your Pinnacle -- and most of the other packs mentioned (MLD, SMD, ULA, etc.) are all made with the same material type: Dyneema.

As above, there is no "Do it all" pack that will do everything well -- but methinks Dyneema has the widest range in terms of satisfying many UL users with its light weight -- while also being durable enough for a wide range of uses.

Edited by ben2world on 09/17/2010 08:56:28 MDT.

Thom Darrah
(thomdarrah) - MLife

Locale: Southern Oregon
Do it all Pack on 09/17/2010 09:08:20 MDT Print View

If I had to limit my gear closet to just one pack to cover all conditions and adventure types I would go with a "super" version of the MLD Burn. Opting for the "super" upgrade results in a very tough and durable UL pack that can handle any adventure. The packs low volume requires gear discipline and careful trip planning but with adding two belt pockets and two shoulder strap pockets for additional storage I can use this pack for any adventure my schedule will allow.

Edited by thomdarrah on 09/17/2010 17:11:56 MDT.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
the "Do it all Pack" on 09/17/2010 09:18:19 MDT Print View

Limiting yourself to one pack? The horror.............the horror........

Larry Dyer
(veriest1) - F

Locale: Texas
Dyneema has taken over this thread! on 09/17/2010 09:19:16 MDT Print View

The burn is an intriguing option but IMO it's a little small for a do it all pack. I have an Ion and a MH Scrambler for slightly longer trips but one can only put so much food and water in those. My Ion modded would be an excellent choice for most of what I do but for everything? Probably not.

ULA CDT is what has impressed me so far for this purpose but I haven't settled yet.