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>> Bender <<
(Bender) - MLife

Locale: NEO
8g WeenieBiner on 09/08/2010 09:09:52 MDT Print View

Has anyone here tried out the Edelrid 8g Micro 3 Carabiner for hammock suspension? They are rated at 400kg and the price is right. A 12g version rated at 650kg is also available.

http://www.extremtextil.de/catalog/Accessories/Hooks/Carabiner/Micro-3-Carabiner-62mm::895.html

Edited by Bender on 09/08/2010 09:10:30 MDT.

Nathan Baker
(Slvravn) - MLife

Locale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/08/2010 10:52:47 MDT Print View

Bender - Have you looked on HF for people using them. I know that there have been a few discussions involving them and a handful of people that have hung from them. At 8g or 12g they sound like a nice addition to your suspension system. Its a shame that they are not available locally or are in stock anywhere.

Jolly Green Giant
(regultr) - MLife

Locale: www.jolly-green-giant.blogspot.com
Re: Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/08/2010 11:17:41 MDT Print View

Isn't that pretty much the same as the CAMP Nano 23?

http://www.camp-usa.com/products/carabiners/nano-23-orange-118903.asp

>> Bender <<
(Bender) - MLife

Locale: NEO
Re: Re: Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/08/2010 11:35:48 MDT Print View

The Micro 3 Edelrid is 1/3 the weight of the Nano 23. The Nano 23 is the lightest climbing spec carabiner. These are non climbing biners with a 400kg rating. FYI the nano 23 is rated to 20kn which equates to 2045kg! My 32g Mad Rock carabiners would be rated even higher at 2557kg.

Nathan Baker
(Slvravn) - MLife

Locale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Re: Re: Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/08/2010 11:39:35 MDT Print View

typing while bender was posting. Same answer as above!

Bender - did you find a place that has them in stock?

Edited by Slvravn on 09/08/2010 11:40:45 MDT.

Brian Camprini
(bcamprini) - MLife

Locale: Southern Appalachians
Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/08/2010 12:24:24 MDT Print View

Jacksrbetter is now carrying Dutch Clips which are tiny 10g biners specifically made for hammock suspensions. I use them and they work great.

http://jacksrbetter.com/DutchBiner.htm

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/08/2010 19:00:26 MDT Print View

Nacrabiners out of amsteel are just as easy to use and lighter still.

tim hower
(jeepcachr) - F

Locale: Great Lakes
nacrabiners on 09/10/2010 07:14:24 MDT Print View

8g is approaching the weight of a nacrabiner. Nacrabiner's are not as easy to use as a spring clip carabiner. Can you place or remove a nacrabiner one handed? Can you use them with gloves on? I've used them but went back to 23g carabiners because they are easier.

Nathan Baker
(Slvravn) - MLife

Locale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/14/2010 13:15:23 MDT Print View

FYI - I called Edelrid and the Micro 3 (8g / 400kg rated) and the Aranya (12g / 650kg rated) are not available in North America and can only be ordered overseas. That being said I sent an email to the European division to see what they can do.

tim hower
(jeepcachr) - F

Locale: Great Lakes
bent on 09/14/2010 14:03:57 MDT Print View

Dutch over on hammock forums http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21929&highlight=eldrid&page=2 reported that they bent when he used them.

>> Bender <<
(Bender) - MLife

Locale: NEO
Re: Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/14/2010 23:29:20 MDT Print View

I don't think I'll have problems with the 8g version but to be safe I ordered the 12g as well.

Here is what I have planned for them.

Grand Trunk Nano 7 hammock 5 oz (actual)
2x Edelrid carabiners .6-.9 oz (claimed)
2x AHE 5' tree huggers 2.1 oz (actual)
2x Dynaglide whoopies .6 oz (guess)

Total: 8.3-8.6 oz

Nathan Baker
(Slvravn) - MLife

Locale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Re: Re: Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/15/2010 04:35:35 MDT Print View

Bender - Where were you able to find the biners in stock? I checked out several places and could not find them.

Ike Mouser
(isaac.mouser) - F
nacrabiners on 09/15/2010 05:15:43 MDT Print View

My nacrabiners dont weigh 8 grams, they barely weigh 1 and they are as large as these carabiners and made of dynaglide. They support me in my hammock. I use them to connect my huggesr to my slings.

Edited by isaac.mouser on 09/15/2010 05:20:27 MDT.

Nathan Baker
(Slvravn) - MLife

Locale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Re: nacrabiners on 09/15/2010 06:01:47 MDT Print View

I made a pair of them as well and like you said they weigh around a gram and probably rate at 500lbs or so (taking into account strength degradation from using a knot) . The only trade off to using them is convenience. You cant use them one handed and if your suspension system is under any load they are a pain in the butt to take off. That being said they are still in my kit, but I wanted to give another option a try.


Edit: changed oz to g

Edited by Slvravn on 09/15/2010 07:41:35 MDT.

Ike Mouser
(isaac.mouser) - F
oz on 09/15/2010 07:29:48 MDT Print View

mine dont weigh an oz, they weigh less than 1g

Nathan Baker
(Slvravn) - MLife

Locale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Re: oz on 09/15/2010 07:40:45 MDT Print View

Whoops, typo there! Mine weigh in around a gram as well. Will correct above

Steve Martell
(Steve) - MLife

Locale: Eastern Washington
<8g Biner replacement on 09/15/2010 10:20:06 MDT Print View

I made 6 gram Titanium "S" hooks to connect my hammock (whoopie slings to tree ropes). Easier/faster/lighter than most other setups. Mine are larger than I need--smaller ones would probably be around 3-4 grams each.
Titanium is from a 0.156" dia. tent stake--purchased here:

http://www.moontrail.com/accessrs/a-stakes/titanium.html

Note: you have to heat them to get a good bend w/o breaking.

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: <8g Biner replacement on 09/15/2010 11:08:13 MDT Print View

?

Half of an easton 6" aluminum nail stake is 2.1g without the head on either piece.

Any reason you guys don't just use these as toggles?

I've never had one slip out on me, and frankly find them even simpler than clipping a biner or hooking something.

>> Bender <<
(Bender) - MLife

Locale: NEO
Re: Re: Re: Re: 8g WeenieBiner on 09/15/2010 13:36:39 MDT Print View

Nathan I ordered from extremtextil.de A few days later I got notice that they had shipped. They say out of stock for the micro 3 but it looks like they just forgot to update the page.

Ike Mouser
(isaac.mouser) - F
one clip on 09/15/2010 18:44:17 MDT Print View

javan i find nothing easier yhan clipping a dutch clip. my slings are already attached to the tree hugger. so one clip and im done.