Yellow Heet on plane?
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Sven Klingemann
(svenklingemann) - F
Yellow Heet on plane? on 08/30/2010 19:14:12 MDT Print View

Hi all -
does anyone know if you can take heet in your checked luggage?
Thanks!
Sven

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Yellow Heet on plane? on 08/30/2010 19:21:45 MDT Print View

I would not try it.

Edited by jshann on 08/30/2010 19:23:21 MDT.

Sven Klingemann
(svenklingemann) - F
! on 08/30/2010 19:27:03 MDT Print View

I guess it falls under "any flammable liquid fuel" ...
sigh.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: ! on 08/30/2010 19:35:24 MDT Print View

Unfortunately, you guessed right. Fuel like HEET is NOT allowed onboard airplanes -- be it checked or carried on. When it comes to fuel, your option is pretty much limited to local sourcing.

Steofan The Apostate
(simaulius) - F

Locale: Bohemian Alps
Yellow Heet on a plane? on 08/30/2010 19:45:10 MDT Print View

They won't even let you take bear spray on a plane.

Marc Kokosky
(mak52580) - F

Locale: Washington, DC Area
Rubbing/Isopropyl Alcohol? on 08/30/2010 21:22:14 MDT Print View

I would think they would get a little leery about seeing HEET in your luggage since its technically supposed to be used in cars.

However, if you packed a bottle or two of isopropyl alcohol from your local drugstore I would be willing to bet that they wouldn't even flinch, especially if it's packed in a checked bag. At the end of the day it will depend on the baggage screener and at least with isorpopyl alcohol they would just remove/confiscate it and leave a note in your bag rather than pulling you out of line and giving you the third degree and missing your flight if you were to bring a couple bottles of HEET. YMMV.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Rubbing/Isopropyl Alcohol? on 08/30/2010 21:52:41 MDT Print View

Isopropyl alcohol isn't much good as a stove fuel, though.

It is allowed to pack one bottle of drinking alcohol up to 140 Proof, but it has to be in the store-sealed bottle.

--B.G.--

Marc Kokosky
(mak52580) - F

Locale: Washington, DC Area
Everclear Alcohol on 08/30/2010 22:05:31 MDT Print View

VERY true. I completely forgot about drinking alcohol!

I know that the isopropyl isn't as good as HEET, but was thinking if it had to do...

That said, you are typically allowed 2 750ml bottles of drinking alcohol so you could buy 2 bottles of Everclear 190 proof which is probably as efficient as HEET.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Re: Rubbing/Isopropyl Alcohol? on 08/30/2010 22:33:00 MDT Print View

It depends for isopropyl alcohol. The kind that Roger and Tony used for their BPL articles gave noxious fumes and caused headaches. Maybe that 0.1% of impurity was what caused their problems because I don't have the same problem with the 70% and 99% isopropyl alcohol I get at the drug store. Like them, I did find it to be sooty when I burned the 99% stuff, however it was much cleaner when burning the 70%. The problem with the 70% is that it's much harder to light. One other potential problem for long distance hikers is that lots of trail town stores don't carry good grades of isopropyl alcohol....sometimes I could only find 50%, which is worthless as a fuel. The benefit to isopropyl alcohol is that it has a higher energy content per gram and that it dilutes well.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Everclear Alcohol on 08/30/2010 23:07:43 MDT Print View

"That said, you are typically allowed 2 750ml bottles of drinking alcohol so you could buy 2 bottles of Everclear 190 proof which is probably as efficient as HEET."

However, 190 Proof Everclear is prohibited on the airliner, at least for flights controlled by TSA. 140 is the limit for drinking alcohol.

--B.G.--

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
OOooooK! on 08/31/2010 00:32:01 MDT Print View

Well then what about ESBIT ("Flamable Fuel".eh?)

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: OOooooK! on 08/31/2010 00:37:13 MDT Print View

Esbit is prohibited also.

Anything that has fuel in its name or its nickname is a no-no.

--B.G.--

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: OOooooK! on 08/31/2010 00:44:51 MDT Print View

I went through this dialog with TSA some months ago when I was preparing for a trip. No liquid fuels, no gaseous fuels, and no solid fuels.

So, I asked about solids that were burnable, like wood or wax. They said no solid fuels. Then I pointed out that wooden cargo pallets go into the aircraft all the time. How about a wax dinner candle?

At that stage of the discussion, I think they got mad at my argument. They pointed out that despite everything that was shown in black and white about prohibited stuff, the final inspector has the discretionary power to yank something out. They started to refer me to MSDS sheets, and all that. Then TSA referred me to DOT, and there is one person at DOT that can look at the MSDS sheet and say "yes" or "no" about special substances. Still, TSA has the right to yank it. I concluded that it is a no-win situation.

--B.G.--

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Re: OOooooK! on 08/31/2010 07:32:30 MDT Print View

I know people have taken esbit on board. You may or may not have it confiscated though.

Marc Kokosky
(mak52580) - F

Locale: Washington, DC Area
Esbit on 08/31/2010 08:12:03 MDT Print View

I had no idea Everclear was banned on planes.

I can also second that it deepnds on the screener for Esbit. I've brought Esbit tabs with me for work trips to Africa where I knew I'd be in the middle of nowhere for several days. I've never had my Esbits confiscated. If you don't mind the little bit of pot soot, I'd say that's the way to go... or the 140 proof liquor to be safe.

Where are you going? You may very well just be able to find what you're looking for whenever you get to where you're going.

Erik Graf
(Van-Go) - F
Heet on 08/31/2010 11:10:35 MDT Print View

I haven't gone through this whole thread so forgive me if you said where you were going but I do not think there is a single place I have ever hiked that I couldn't drive past a car parts store or a Wal-Mart and could run in real quick and get a bottle of that stuff. Or at least something else I could burn as fuel.

Erik Graf
(Van-Go) - F
BTW on 08/31/2010 11:17:47 MDT Print View

Forgot to mention - you could call the ranger's office of the locale you are visiting (if there is one) and ask them 1) if they have any donated or 2) where can you pick some up.

I've hiked in the desert SW before and I have "donated" my unused portion of what I had purchased while there for someone else to use b/c I couldn't fly it back with me. Some places would rather take it off your hands as a donation to other hikers than dump that stuff somewhere it shouldn't be (trash/landfill/drain). At the same time - b/c it is flamable some will not store it.

Can't hurt to ask them though....

Joe Kuster
(slacklinejoe) - MLife

Locale: Flatirons
Yellow Heet on plane on 08/31/2010 13:11:28 MDT Print View

Depending on the location, denatured alcohol is nearly universally available in most cities that will have an airport - after all, they have to paint the numbers on the planes don't they? :)

I've switched from yellow heet to denatured and it seems to have a slight advantage for my particular use. Plus, it's cheap, really cheap.

Worst case scenario, call stores around your destination. Paint or auto stores usually will have some sort of denatured alcohol or similar burnable thinner.

With a bit of haggling, I've arranged to buy a can over the phone and have the owner leave it behind the store since I was landing after business hours. He thought it was odd as hell, but he came around I started complaining about TSA polices.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Yellow Heet on plane on 08/31/2010 13:30:45 MDT Print View

The original poster never stated his destination.

Joe's suggestion works for lots of places. Where I was in Alaska during July, it would not have worked. There are some places so far off the beaten track that there is no airport and no store, and the float planes have to dodge mountains to get there (with the exception of the one carrying ex-Senator Stevens recently).

--B.G.--

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Re: Yellow Heet on plane on 08/31/2010 13:39:30 MDT Print View

So how did you get your fuel supply, Bob?