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Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/22/2010 22:17:00 MDT Print View

I just received the MSR Hubba Hubba HP (2 person), European Model. I had read quite a few posts here and there claiming that MSR tents are not UL, but now that I've received one, weighed it, and set it up in the living room, I have to say that I'm very impressed. For a double-walled, solid fabric shelter, it is very light indeed. The fly sheet and inner materials are amazingly thin and light. Every detail has been carefully thought out, including all guylines, straps, guyline buckles, zipper pulls, and cordlocks, all of which are the lightest available. The entire package, including everything, weights 1724 g. That's 648 g for the fly, 598 g for the inner (which is solid), and 478 g for the entire pole set. The interior height is 100 cm. The interior floor area is 2.8 sq. m. and both vestibules together are 1.6 sq. m. Floor length is 2.1 cm and floor width is 1.3 cm. Being "freestanding" makes it versatile when doing things like bicycle camping, when often you end up on tarmacs and roadside campgrounds where stakes are impossible to get into the ground.

The Hubba Hubba compares very well to the TarpTent Scarp (also a double wall shelter), which, with the optional poles comes to 2012 g. The Scarp has an interior head space of 114 cm, interior floor area of 2.9 sq. m and both vestibules together at 1.16 sq. m. Floor length is 218 cm and floor width is 132 cm.

The 100 cm head space doesn't feel at all confining or too low. In fact, because of the triangular end poles and the overhead transverse pole the entire interior of the Hubba Hubba is usable. I had no trouble imaging four people comfortably sitting inside playing cards.

I love the subtle and cheery green color of the fly. It looks at once natural, but at the same time bright enough to make rainy days holed up inside bearable.

Not sure I like the stakes all that much. They would be painful to try to push into the ground with the palm of your hand.

I moved away from inner-first shelters back when traveling in Europe in 1995, when I bought and used a tunnel tent. But my partner really likes this tent and I think I am going to enjoy using it for two.

I still have to use it outside, in the mountains, but for now I can really recommend this tent if you're looking for a 2-person, double-walled, double-vestibuled, solid-inner tent.

Edited by butuki on 08/23/2010 02:28:20 MDT.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/22/2010 22:39:58 MDT Print View

Miguel,
Can you post a web site that has pictures?
Or post some of your own.

This intrigues me, especially at this weight.

Thanks.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
HP on 08/23/2010 00:54:55 MDT Print View

The HP is pretty generously sized for a 2 person tent because the amount of usable headroom is quite good. The top of the HP tent remains high across a large portion of the tent, so you can sit up basically anywhere inside. My buddy has his pitched next to my REI Quarterdome T2 the other week and it made my tent look quite small.

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 02:51:39 MDT Print View

Hi Greg, This video might show you the best views of the European version of the Hubba Hubba HP.

I'll post my own photos as soon as I get out and use the tent. I'm going for ten days on a solo walk, so I won't be using it in a while, but when my partner and I get out, I take it along.

Edited by butuki on 08/23/2010 08:58:59 MDT.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 06:13:58 MDT Print View

Thank you Miguel.

Thomas Gauperaa
(gauperaa) - F - M

Locale: Norway
Re: Re: Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 06:31:34 MDT Print View

But isn't that the regular Hubba Hubba in the video? the inner is all mesh

Here's a video review of the solo version, the Hubba HP.
http://www.hikinginfinland.com/2010/04/msr-hubba-hp-2010-review.html

Edit: added stuff

Edited by gauperaa on 08/23/2010 06:41:26 MDT.

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 09:00:40 MDT Print View

Thomas, you're right. Oops! I posted the wrong link. Here is the right one. I've fixed it in the post above, too.

Philip Maynard
(Autoxfil) - F
Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 10:13:45 MDT Print View

I have the US version and have been very impressed. This is one of those cases where a slight weight penalty gets you a huge amount of versatility.

4lb for a very comfy 2-person, 4-season, well-vented, double-wall tent with two big doors and vestibules, that pitches fast and taut.

I will sleep soundly in this tent in summer heat, spring rain, alpine thunderstorms, heavy winter snowfall, desert wind and sand, or in the backyard. Yes, my Betalight is half the weight and offers lots of protection, but when I'm not sure what to expect - a real tent offers great safety and comfort.

To have a better tent for every occasion you would need a Firstlight, Tarptent with bug liner, 'mid of some sort, and roomy heavy tent, at the very least. And even then, you'd always be wondering if you were going to bring the right one. With the Hubba Hubba HP it's 2lb per person and we know we're ready for anything.

Edited by Autoxfil on 08/23/2010 10:28:56 MDT.

a gould
(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 10:51:26 MDT Print View

Thanks for sharing, Miguel. The solid inner fabric walls really cause this tent to stand out among the others in this style and weight class.

How has it been performing in the wind (above tree line)?


"Floor length is 2.1 cm and floor width is 1.3 cm"

@Miguel: So that's how they got it so light.

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: First Impressions of the European Model MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 15:12:04 MDT Print View

"Floor length is 2.1 cm and floor width is 1.3 cm"

@Miguel: So that's how they got it so light.


People tend to run small in my family! ;^P

Aiiii! Must have been half asleep when I posted! Floor length 210 cm and floor width 130 cm. Ahhh! That's more like it!

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: Tokyo, Japan
MSR Hubba Hubba HP on 08/23/2010 17:33:53 MDT Print View

Nice choice Miguel. I think this is more suitable for our conditions here than most USA-brand tents with almost full mesh inners. I have read though that the inability to close up the mesh vent on the inner of the HP is a problem for dust blowing in and staying warm in our alpine weather. Do think some velcro-ed fabric could be attached to solve this?

Rick

Edited by rmjapan on 08/23/2010 17:35:02 MDT.