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David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
grappling hook on 07/26/2010 22:48:49 MDT Print View

On rotten desert towers, some use an ice axe tied to a
cord like a grappling hook.

You could drill and bolt the route with really big
bolts or glue ins for protection.

S Long
(Izeloz) - M

Locale: Wasatch
climber on 07/26/2010 23:04:00 MDT Print View

Just find a competent climber to do it for you. At an entire FOOT wide and only fifteen feet I would totally go for it free solo!

Nobody You Know
(DirtbagLiving) - F

Locale: Colorado
WTF? on 07/26/2010 23:06:41 MDT Print View

You want to climb a semi exposed cliff with a grappeling hook? Are you serious?

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: WTF? on 07/26/2010 23:50:35 MDT Print View

This is completely wacky...I love it.

1

So does anyone build micro-ATCs and micro-ascenders to use with the 550 paracord attached to the micro-grappling hook?
OOOH! A micro-Gri Gri for self belay...

I'm sure David Olsen will chime in now saying that tying a micro-Munter would be lighter! :)

Rod Lawlor
(Rod_Lawlor) - MLife

Locale: Australia
Re: Re: WTF? on 07/27/2010 04:09:11 MDT Print View

"I'm sure David Olsen will chime in now saying that tying a micro-Munter would be lighter! :)"

Craig,

That's ridiculous and irresponsible!! Any experienced climber knows that belaying on 550 paracord requires a minimum of a super-munter http://alpineinstitute.blogspot.com/2010/06/super-munter.html

And no self respecting ULClimber is going to carry a GriGri, even a micro one.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Grappling Hooks on 07/27/2010 04:12:07 MDT Print View

How about a couple of Marlin or shark hooks, tied together?

Cheers
(But I still want that photo!)

Nobody You Know
(DirtbagLiving) - F

Locale: Colorado
WTF Part 2 on 07/27/2010 08:13:27 MDT Print View

I missed the whole 550 cord thing. So you get a double WTF from me. Please do yourself a favor and scratch this whole idea. If you are super hell bent on doing this, the money you're going to eventually spend on SAR fee's is going to be way more than hiring a guide. Hell I'll guide you.

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
Old school on 07/27/2010 08:36:45 MDT Print View

"So does anyone build micro-ATCs and micro-ascenders to use with the 550 paracord attached to the micro-grappling hook?
OOOH! A micro-Gri Gri for self belay..."

Hip belay, prussics from fishing line---

Philip Maynard
(Autoxfil) - F
Yer gonna die. on 07/27/2010 08:45:16 MDT Print View

If you want to rope up, do it right. Get a rock climber to fix a hand line for you, or to place protection.

j lan
(justaddfuel) - F

Locale: MN
Re: grappling hook on 07/27/2010 08:50:31 MDT Print View

Problem solved:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXthIHyRePg

Jacob D
(JacobD) - F

Locale: North Bay
Re: Re: grappling hook on 07/27/2010 09:19:55 MDT Print View

Quoting from one of the comments on that youtube vid:

"...if you slip and regrab the robe, you do not have static forces, you will have dynamic forces acting to the hook. If´╗┐ it then bends or breaks, there is nothing to hold on or keep ninja save. That's why we today do not rock climb with hemp robes..."

Personally I always climb in a hemp robe, but otherwise I think this is sound advice. Be smart and live to out-ninja your foes another day! ;)

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Why?? on 07/27/2010 13:06:44 MDT Print View

From your description of the route-exposure, angle, crappy rock quality-I find myself wondering why you are attempting this. It comes off as a really creative way to cop the Darwin Award, posthumously of course. None of my business, I know, but still, since you posted.....

Tohru Ohnuki
(erdferkel) - F

Locale: S. California
Re: Yer gonna die. on 07/27/2010 15:14:15 MDT Print View

Since you are attempting to use this type of thing as fall arrest and not just body weight support, it's even more severe an application than what CountyComm has to say about this item:

IMPORTANT: The Micro Grappling hook is not designed for life support applications and should not be used for such applications. As with all tools, use with extreme caution. Special Note To Ninja Warriors: This will not support your body weight.

For the larger one:
# These Hooks Are NOT Certified For Life Support Activities And Should NOT Be Used For Any Life Support Function. They are designed to pull trip wires.

>Use It As A Specialized Grappling Hook To Remotely Capture Lines, Tear Down Phone Lines, Reposition Barbed Wire Emplacements, Disrupt Wires, Move Packages and Bags, Rake and Break Windows, Tear Down Blinds/Curtains in SWAT Entry Applications.

IMPORTANT: The pocket grappling hook is not designed for life support applications and should not be used for such applications. As with all tools, use with extreme caution. This was designed to snag trip wires in a combat enviroment, not snag shopping carts full of rocks from a creek or whaling operations. Use the appropriate tool for the task at hand.

Zachary Zrull
(zackcentury) - F

Locale: Great Lakes
hook on 07/27/2010 19:41:36 MDT Print View

Oh man I love the idea of a big treble hook.
Here's a 14/0

ROBERT TANGEN
(RobertM2S) - M

Locale: Lake Tahoe
Caffin's Boomerang on 07/27/2010 20:13:01 MDT Print View

I know that on past climbs, Roger Caffin has tossed a very large boomerang with an attached rope, which then flies around the tree and comes neatly right back into his throwing hand.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: grappling hook on 07/27/2010 21:16:56 MDT Print View

I get some unsuspecting dupe to go before me and lower me a line..

Pierce Bayers
(pbayers) - F
hooks for sale on 07/28/2010 11:48:55 MDT Print View

I got 4 Capewell grappling hooks that I got off of Botach tactical (God smite their customer service please)for sale now.
I got these last year when they were cheaper and I was able to get a discount for getting 6;D Anyway Ill beat their price by 5% and give free shipping anywhere in the cont.US Thats $185 shipped
Rope not included

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
Re: Re: WTF? on 07/28/2010 18:07:05 MDT Print View

"So does anyone build micro-ATCs and micro-ascenders to use with the 550 paracord attached to the micro-grappling hook?
OOOH! A micro-Gri Gri for self belay..."

Dulfersitz?