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Derek Schutt
(derek_fc) - F

Locale: Northern Colorado Front Range
thoughts on good but cheaper sleeping pad on 07/19/2010 07:38:46 MDT Print View

I'm in the market for a sleeping pad to use with my new sleeping quilt. My old thermarest is heavy and 15 years old. I don't want to go with a closed-cell pad because I sleep on my side and my hips bruise, so something like a NeoAir would be great--if it wasn't so expensive.

I'm curious if anyone has recommendations for something soft-ish, warm-ish, and cheap-ish. Do you guys like the BPL Torsolite? Thanks.

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: thoughts on good but cheaper sleeping pad on 07/19/2010 07:51:26 MDT Print View

1.) Kooka Bay Air Mat(not very warm)? or Synthetic Insulated Mat?

2.) CC Foam pad with a Thermarest Prolite X-Small on top?

3.) Thermarest Ridgerest Solar? (I know it is CC foam, but it is pretty thick so it might qualify as soft-ish.

Kier Selinsky
(Kieran) - F

Locale: Seattle, WA
Re: thoughts on good but cheaper sleeping pad on 07/19/2010 08:02:11 MDT Print View

If you can't do CCF like a ridgerest, then +1 on the kooka bay - i haven't seen more reasonably priced inflatables

Mark Ryan
(Sixguns01)

Locale: Somewhere. Probably lost.
Inflatable Mattress on 07/19/2010 08:35:31 MDT Print View

I enjoy the Thermarest Prolite 3. Around 60-70 bucks and light for an inflatable for the price. Packs down nice and small as well. Find some good deals on this website or on Ebay.

Hope it helps

Brian Latta
(skillet0) - F

Locale: SW Michigan
Re: thoughts on good but cheaper sleeping pad on 07/19/2010 09:03:23 MDT Print View

You can get the Big Agnes Insulated Air Core pad for $60 shipped or the regular Air Core for less.

Jason Elsworth
(jephoto) - M

Locale: New Zealand
POE Ether Elite on 07/19/2010 16:33:13 MDT Print View

The POE Ether Elite's are cheaper than the Neoairs.

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
thoughts on good but cheaper sleeping pad on 07/19/2010 16:44:07 MDT Print View

When I bought air pads for myself, my wife and my daughter we went with the POE Ether -Thermo. Very good for the price, and included a stuff sack and a patch kit. Very comfortable so far but winter is another matter.I even found a balloon pump at Amazon that fits it well and which removes the issue of getting moisture into the internal fabric/baffles that seems to be a real concern especially on down filled mattresses.

Edited by Meander on 07/19/2010 16:45:03 MDT.

jeffrey bennett
(jollygreen)

Locale: Near the bottom
Clear view on 07/19/2010 17:29:50 MDT Print View

I love my Big Anges Clear view mummy. Good till about freezing by its self. Lower than that add a foam pad. $45 to $55 on the web.

Edited by jollygreen on 07/19/2010 17:30:25 MDT.

Jay Campbell
(gohawks) - F

Locale: SE Iowa
poe ether elite on 07/19/2010 19:34:59 MDT Print View

I got one. light, cheap, comfy. I dont know how warm the torso insulating strips will be though.I cant imagine much colder than neoair. slight weight penalty, mummy vs. rectangular, but big price difference.

Its harder than heck to find a regular length right now. I do know you can get the 2/3 or long length from detourgearzone for a great deal, especially if you can take advantage of the 20% off code.

Edited by gohawks on 07/19/2010 19:56:27 MDT.

Brad Groves
(4quietwoods) - MLife

Locale: Michigan
Re: thoughts on good but cheaper sleeping pad on 07/20/2010 09:33:13 MDT Print View

Your best bet is a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core. Pick up the 20 x 60 mummy for 18 ounces, R-value of 4, and 2.5 inches of comfort... for ~$75. Incidentally, retail on the standard 20 x 72 IAC is ~$80, not $60. But still half the price of a Neo.

I do recommend 2" + pads for side sleepers. Your shoulders and hips won't bottom out on the ground. They definitely would on the much thinner pad.

Elizabeth Tracy
(mariposa) - M

Locale: Outside
POE Ether on 07/20/2010 15:09:32 MDT Print View

I am a side sleeper, and love my new POE Ether.
More comfy than the Neoair I tried in the store.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: POE Ether on 07/20/2010 15:37:07 MDT Print View

Review coming on POE Ether Elite 6 soon.

Yeah, not bad. Not perfect either, but comfy.

Cheers

>> Bender <<
(Bender) - MLife

Locale: NEO
Re: Big Agnes Insulated Air core on 07/20/2010 16:19:30 MDT Print View

I don't know how Big Agnes gets away with advertising the Insulated Air Core with an R value of 4.1. According to Richard Nisley's testing the R value is actually 1.5-1.8 depending on inflation. Other air mats were much closer to their advertised ratings. The Insulated Air Core uses a thin layer of Primaloft Eco which has a clo of .74. I believe the thickness is 0.6" if I remember correctly. The Eco insulation would need to bee several times thicker to reach the advertised R value.

Hike Ultralight
(HikeUltralight) - M

Locale: Southeast
BA IAC vs RR Solar Deluxe on 07/20/2010 16:34:13 MDT Print View

To those that have owned both, (or at least the BA IAC and the RR Deluxe) how do they compare in terms of comfort (just comfort, not concerned about warmth). It would save me about 5 ounces, more after I cut it down, and I would not have to worry about punctures, blowing up, etc.

I start off trying to sleep on my back, but usually end up all over the place, stomach, back, and side.

Edited by HikeUltralight on 07/20/2010 16:34:47 MDT.

Chris H
(-NXP-) - F

Locale: Upper Midwest
Re: BA IAC vs RR Solar Deluxe on 07/20/2010 20:24:17 MDT Print View

I own both (a RRD and the BAIAC Short rectangle), and hands down comfort goes to the BA. I'm a side sleeper, and found that even the 1" thick Thermarests make me wake up sore.

In the summer it's always the BA, in the fall it's the BA with a GG 1/8th pad, and in the winter it's the BA and RRD on the snow/ice.

If Bender had been around when I got my BA, I would have gone with him first - but kept the syn filler over the down (just a preference).

The POE does look like a good substitute for the money IMO.

Hike Ultralight
(HikeUltralight) - M

Locale: Southeast
Comfort on 07/20/2010 20:32:24 MDT Print View

So as a stomach/side sleeper, I really do not have much of an option (as far as weight savings) but to go with something like the BA IAC? I like it, but tend to roll off. I may try to snag a NeoAir large. I would save about 5 ounces, and it would be 25 inches wide instead of 20, however, it is quite a bit more expensive.

Basically, I am looking for:

1. Comfort
2. Weight
3. Cost

In that order.

I own the BA IAC already.

Derek Schutt
(derek_fc) - F

Locale: Northern Colorado Front Range
Big Agnes Insulated Air Core on 07/21/2010 14:49:04 MDT Print View

Thanks everyone for your comments. I just went for a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core (the short mummy). Can't wait to sleep on something on which I don't bottom out when I sleep on my side.