lightweight crampon bag
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Ben Wald
(benwald) - F
lightweight crampon bag on 07/09/2006 19:43:28 MDT Print View

Most crampon bags and rubber point-protectors weigh at least 4 oz's. Are there any lighter alternatives that protect the rest of your gear and are simple enough to use in the dark?

Stubai advertizes a 65 gram (2.3 oz) crampon bag. Has anyone tried that?
Alternatively, how about bags made out of spectra or kevlar?

I've heard of people wrapping their crampons in an old foam mat, but when I tried that it was bulky. (My crampons have a 'new classic' binding which adds to the bulk).

Sometimes I just strap the crampons to the outside of the pack, but I prefer to have them inside when rock climbing or bushwhacking.


(alarswilson)
Plastic bottle on 07/11/2006 05:52:28 MDT Print View

Try taking a 2 liter soda bottle, cut off top and bottom and slit down one side. Wrap up one in each, and secure with a rubber band. These bottles are suprisingly puncture resistant.

Ben Wald
(benwald) - F
Re: Plastic bottle on 07/11/2006 15:27:14 MDT Print View

Excellent suggestion, Andrew. Thanks! Now you've got me thinking about plastic sheeting, would lexan/polycarbonate be even tougher? (Soda bottles are made of PETE). I cut open a soda bottle, and it's roughly 1/64 inch thick. Does anyone know whether 1/64 polycarbonate sheet is readily available?

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Plastic bottle on 07/11/2006 21:54:19 MDT Print View

Hmmm, a 1/2 gallon milk jug might be just about right for a pair of crampons. You could dissect the top to form flaps and secure with some cord strung though holes made with a paper punch. An old Platypus might work too. I'm still up for a Tupperware box though.

Edited by dwambaugh on 07/11/2006 21:54:51 MDT.

Graham Williams
(crackers) - F
Re: Re: Plastic bottle on 07/12/2006 08:50:27 MDT Print View

Sure, you could get 1/64" PETE or 1.1mil PE, but what's the point? As for the spectra fabric thing, well, it's not going to be economically feasible.

I'd recommend a bottle and duct tape.

Ben Wald
(benwald) - F
Re: Re: Re: Plastic bottle on 07/12/2006 10:47:11 MDT Print View

Graham, I was suggesting lexan/polycarbonate (not PETE) sheet, on the grounds that it might be tougher than the PETE found in soda bottles. But after some destructive testing on soda bottles, I've concluded that the soda bottles are tough enough.

Edited by benwald on 07/12/2006 10:51:19 MDT.

Ben Wald
(benwald) - F
Re: Re: Re: Plastic bottle on 07/12/2006 10:50:15 MDT Print View

Dale, milk jugs are made of a different plastic (HDPE) that is not as tough as the PETE found in soda bottles.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Re: Re: Plastic bottle on 07/12/2006 12:53:25 MDT Print View

Agreed-- I was thinking of the size. If they fit, you could drop the crampons inside and tie the top shut.

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
crampon holder on 07/12/2006 16:57:38 MDT Print View

I've been using the same two 1 quart oil containers
cut and sewn together to make a plastic tray for
20 years. I made a nylon zipper pouch to hold it
all, then ice screws and a small fluke fit in there too.

Graham Williams
(crackers) - F
Re: Plastic bottles on 07/14/2006 06:39:50 MDT Print View

BTW, Plastic bottles and a pop rivet or two make pretty *BEEP* awesome Anti-Botts. I actually took some shoe glue and glued on some closed cell poly foam to the top in order to insulate them to make my best ever anti-botts. Unfortunately I lost them, but I'll probably make a new pair this winter.

larry savage
(pyeyo) - F

Locale: pacific northwest
Re: Re: Plastic bottles or plastis cutting boards on 08/22/2006 07:54:48 MDT Print View

I've been using a plastic cutting board for a pair of crampons all this season.
These are usually sold in packs of three different colors and we usually replace our kitchen ones yearly, I just grabbed one and use a heavy duty rubber band. Has the added bonus of a cute fish imprinted in the corner.

Joshua Gilbert
(joshcgil2) - F

Locale: Seattle
how 'bout a snowclaw? on 02/19/2007 13:09:03 MST Print View

I know this is an old thread, but I just realized today that you can take a snowclaw and wrap it around your crampons, and protect your bag from your points. Assuming that you are already carrying a shovel and you use a snowclaw, you get yet one more use for your already multi-use tool, and no holes in your pack. I have a snowclaw guide, which is a bit stiff for this application, although still functional, I imagine the racer model, which is supposed to be more flexible would be ideal. One caveat: If you have large feet (12.5 for me)your front points will stick out the one end, oh and you need some kind of strap to hold the snowclaw closed.
Josh

Edited by joshcgil2 on 02/19/2007 13:09:37 MST.

James Watts
(james481) - F

Locale: Sandia Mountains
Re: how 'bout a snowclaw? on 02/19/2007 17:08:44 MST Print View

Wow, that's a pretty good idea (slaps self on head). I usually carry mine in a BD crampon pouch secured to my pack with the sleeping pad straps, but if I ever carry them inside, I'll give the snowclaw a try.

YAMABUSHI !
(THUNDERHORSE) - F
Bump on 01/06/2010 16:02:38 MST Print View

2x thick cordura sheet has worked for me... just wrapped around

but the soda bottle idea seems cool

David Stanhope
(stanhope2003) - F

Locale: New England
Wild Things Crampon Bag on 01/07/2010 10:47:49 MST Print View

I use the Wild Things gear Crampon Bag. It's 6oz. I want to say it's kevlar reinforced but don't quote me on that. It's very durable and fits crampons and has room to spare. When I climb I attach my crampons to the outside of my pack but I use the crampon bag just for transportation so it doesn't rip any of my other gear.

http://www.wildthingsgear.com/legacy/?p=1255

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Black Diamond Crampon Bag on 01/07/2010 11:42:54 MST Print View

I have been using this at 5.5 oz. But now you all have got me to thinking about this. I shall watch this thread with interest.

Jace Mullen
(climberslacker) - F

Locale: Your guess is as good as mine.
differences? on 01/16/2010 10:58:37 MST Print View

So what would the advantages of a bag be over the little rubber point protectors? Wouldn't the protectors be lighter? Maybe im missing something here, as I just ordered my first pair a couple of days ago (Grivel G12 fwiw).

-Jace

YAMABUSHI !
(THUNDERHORSE) - F
Re: differences? on 01/21/2010 20:07:32 MST Print View

A bag or some sort of cover will fully enclose your hopefully sharp and pointy crampons from fragile things like a down jacket, shell, or even your pack itself.

the rubber point protectors would work in theory but lets be real, out there, your not going to want to fiddle with little rubber dots, with cold hands and maybe a cold brain. thats a 100% headache. K.I.S.S. or if you like

“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.”
-Leonardo da Vinci quotes

g12's are great. dont get sucked in to buying every product out there. there are thousands of dollars that need to be spent for mountain equipment, point protectors are at the very end of the list.



Hey Nick:Crampon Case

I thought of doing a tutorial but if you cant figure that out you... IMEANCOMEON!

1.7 OZ

Derek Goffin
(Derekoak)

Locale: North of England
lightweight crampon bag on 01/22/2010 03:45:05 MST Print View

I solved 2 problems at once. I used a piece of old polyurethane groudsheet and made 2 inside leg half gaiters that hold any baggy trousers close to my leg to stop the crampons spiking them and enclose the crampons with the same elastic and hook and loop, when they are stored. weight 40grams 1.4 ounces They actually nearly surround my partner's kahtoola's too as I often carry both.

Nicholas Luhr
(nhluhr) - F
no bag necessary! on 02/04/2010 12:44:34 MST Print View

I don't bag my crampons... But when I tuck them into an outer stretchy pocket, I just sandwich the points together so they can't pierce anything.

Edited by nhluhr on 02/04/2010 12:45:36 MST.