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Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Reflectix on 06/10/2010 22:25:25 MDT Print View

You know the aluminized bubble-wrap stuff. I have used some, and I always join pieces with clear packing tape.

For something new, I need to join pieces with some adhesive that is waterproof. What kind of adhesive would be suggested? Maybe Contact Cement?

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Reflectix on 06/10/2010 22:41:05 MDT Print View

If contact cement(barge) doesn't work what about waterproof tape like Gorilla Tape? Or tape for Cuben fiber?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/10/2010 22:45:22 MDT Print View

I'm guessing that contact cement will be lighter than anything and still be waterproof. I don't have Cuben tape or Gorilla tape. I'm trying to join two flat surfaces together, so the tapes would have to be double-sided.

--B.G.--

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Reflectix on 06/10/2010 23:47:41 MDT Print View

Reflectix makes a special tape for their products. It is one sided. You should be able to get it at Lowes or Home Depot.

3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive should work with Reflectix.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/10/2010 23:56:15 MDT Print View

Single sided tape isn't going to work for this.

I do have the spray adhesive, so I'll sleep on that concept tonight and then build it tomorrow.

--B.G.--

Stephen P
(spavlock) - F

Locale: Mid-Atlantic
Re: Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/11/2010 15:54:54 MDT Print View

Let us know how the spray adhesive goes. I might start using that instead of tape if it is water-proof.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/11/2010 16:02:03 MDT Print View

Normally, Reflectix is used in some application where heat is involved, and I am not sure how that would work with spray adhesive.

I'm actually trying to create something out of Reflectix that doesn't involve heat. I'm trying to use it as a tough bubble wrap only.

--B.G.--

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Clear packing tape on 06/11/2010 16:03:40 MDT Print View

I find that clear packing tape IS waterproof. I sealed off a vent in my dishwasher about 8 years ago and it has never come off. Urea Formaldehyde adhesive I think.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Clear packing tape on 06/11/2010 16:09:08 MDT Print View

As I reported earlier, I would need double-sided tape for this, so I don't think tape is going to work. I have no double-sided tape.

For ordinary things with Reflectix, I use ordinary clear tape, and it works good as long as you don't let it get too hot.

--B.G.--

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Double sided on 06/11/2010 16:33:07 MDT Print View

There may be an answer here.
http://www.maxitape.com/tape/products/tapes/type/double-coated-tapes

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Reflectix on 06/11/2010 20:25:30 MDT Print View

Let me explain my goal first. It's a little weird, so bear with me.

I will be visiting two national parks within two weeks of each other, but I will be on foot with my backpack and no car. Therefore, UL concepts apply.

When you are out in the national parks, most of the time you clean up in the nearest stream. However, in each of these two national parks, there is a pay-type public shower near a campground. After a week at a time of being grubby, it might be nice to hit a hot shower. In most of these public showers, the floor is pretty disgusting. They are not the most sanitary in the world. So, wouldn't it be nice to have UL shower slippers?

I decided that a half-inch-thick sole would be good, and Reflectix comes in quarter-inch-thick layers, so two layers would do it. I traced the sole outline of a small running shoe onto the material and cut out two right and two left pieces. I fabricated top over-the-foot straps out of two layers of mosquito net sewn together.

I held the top strap over one Reflectix sole and fastened it underneath so that it would fit my foot. Then I stuck the second Reflectix sole underneath that and adhered it with spray adhesive. That leaves the top strap stuck between the two layers of Reflectix. Then I applied a little extra seam sealer around the edges. Done. One pair-One ounce.

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/11/2010 22:33:19 MDT Print View

Why not convert your insoles to flip flops and then just remove the string to convert them back to insoles?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/11/2010 22:43:19 MDT Print View

I don't like the piece between my toes on flip flops.

Besides, I don't have any shoes with removable insoles.

--B.G.--

Jack H.
(Found) - F

Locale: Sacramento, CA
Re: Reflectix on 06/12/2010 03:32:46 MDT Print View

I've always used duct tape.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/12/2010 14:15:09 MDT Print View

You duct tape your feet?

Or, you use duct tape to hold two pieces of stuff together?

I didn't want to put much duct tape in there because it would add a lot of weight, and also it will collect grunge.

--B.G.--

Gregg Martell
(gmartell) - F

Locale: Mid Atlantic
Good for hotspots on 06/12/2010 14:27:15 MDT Print View

I used to use duct tape for hot spots on my feet, worked great. Now I use Luekatape for the same thing.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Reflectix on 06/12/2010 18:43:30 MDT Print View

Aren't you gonna get grunge inside the bubblewrap portion? I can understand the annoyance of the string between the toes on flip flops, but if your only wearing them in the shower.. I am curious as to what shoes you wear that do not have removable insoles.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/12/2010 19:08:57 MDT Print View

From what I can tell, nothing like water or soap or grunge will penetrate the Reflectix.

I suppose that it is possible for me to rip the insoles out of my boots, but I don't see the sense in that.

If this Reflectix solution was going to be heavy, like six ounces or something, it would be different. But one ounce for the pair was just about right.

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/12/2010 20:42:34 MDT Print View

Well I can see that the bubblewrap portion would allow water and such in a the sides. Yes you would be standing on the aluminum covering but the core is not impervious to moisture getting in

bubble

And what brand boots do you wear that don't have removable insoles?

Edited by kthompson on 06/12/2010 20:44:35 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Re: Reflectix on 06/12/2010 21:05:52 MDT Print View

Ken, to avoid much water intrusion, I applied some seam sealer to the edges of the Reflectix. There is no sewing, so water can't move vertically.

I have several brands of boots. I don't intend to try to rip the insoles out. I might have trouble trying to put them back in without them sliding around.

--B.G.--