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Patrick Q
(Japhy123) - F
Tarp,groundcloth,bug net suggestions for frugal newbie on 06/10/2010 13:01:19 MDT Print View

Greetings,

I am in the process of gathering some ultralight gear for a Glacier trip in August. I am a relatively new camper and would like to build a tarp setup for one person.

I am willing to sacrifice a bit on weight if it will protect me from the elements (since I am new to tarp camping) and I would like to keep my tarp, bug net, and groundcloth purchase under $200, with mixed-use ideas preferred. The products also need to be delivered within a month as I need them before August 1st (I know Mountain Laurel Design takes 6-8 weeks to get stuff out).

You all are a wealth of information so I look forward to your responses. Sizes for groundcloth/tarps are appreciated if you suggest I just go out and buy a swath of a specific material.

Thanks,

Japhy123

Elliott Wolin
(ewolin) - MLife

Locale: Hampton Roads, Virginia
RE: Tarp,groundcloth,bug net suggestions for frugal newbie on 06/10/2010 13:06:39 MDT Print View

The absolute cheapest way is to make them yourself. Tarps and bug nets are particularly easy. Materials can be mail-ordered and received within a week, less if you pay a little more for 2-day delivery. Patterns are available from many places, and all probably are fine. I use Ray Jardine's patterns.

Even learning how to sew doesn't take too much time, but your timescale is somewhat tight...

Patrick Q
(Japhy123) - F
RE: on 06/10/2010 13:14:27 MDT Print View

Thanks! For the time being, I'd prefer purchasing something considering my time constraints. With more time, i'll probably try to go the MYOG way.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Tarp,groundcloth,bug net suggestions for frugal newbie on 06/10/2010 13:39:28 MDT Print View

http://www.bearpawtents.com/at1.html

They also have bug tents if you want to use a flat tarp.

This place also have affordable bug tents that you can use under a flat tarp.
http://www.alpinlitegear.com

It might be a little tough to keep things under $200 total if you include shipping and get a tyvek or polycro ground cloth.

Jeff McConnell
(catalyst81) - F - M

Locale: Costa Mesa, CA
gear trade on 06/10/2010 14:02:07 MDT Print View

If you really want to keep it under $200, I would use gear trade. There's lots of members here that have extra gear they don't really use anymore. I'd make a WTB post for the tarp. You could probably get a good deal on a flat 8x10 silnylon tarp. Or, Oware makes one for around 102 plus shipping. If you go with a smaller sized tarp I think the price drops. You could probably get a ground cloth pretty cheap off gear trade as well. Good luck!

Edited by catalyst81 on 06/10/2010 14:03:16 MDT.

Scott S
(sschloss1) - F

Locale: New England
Cheap bug net on 06/10/2010 14:06:38 MDT Print View

The Coghlan's bug net (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___86660) is $30 and is, as far as I know, the lightest full length bug net you can buy. It doesn't have a floor, but you can get some tyvek and just tuck the netting underneath.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Cheap bug net on 06/10/2010 14:15:40 MDT Print View

Scott, that bug net is a good option, but the OP should remember there's a difference between netting. This appears to be mosquito netting, not no-see-um netting. If he's anticipating the tiniest creepy crawlies and fliers, no-see-um may be better.

John Stultz
(wayoutthere)
Lightweight canopy tarp and bug net on 06/10/2010 16:22:09 MDT Print View

Try out Bear Paw Tents. They offer a good selection of bug tents and canopies made from silnylon. Their prices are excellent, service is great, and will do custom work at an affordable price.

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Hi John

We have a hard rule that you must fully disclose any vested interest you have in any posting you make. In this case I suspect you may be the owner of Bear Paw?

Cheers
Roger Caffin
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Edited by rcaffin on 06/10/2010 16:48:29 MDT.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Bear Paw disclosure? on 06/10/2010 16:36:54 MDT Print View

John, you wouldn't be the same John from Bear Paw Tents, would you?

Just a friendly reminder that BPL does have a full disclosure clause if you're the proprietor or representative of a company advertising its gear.

Edited by T.L. on 06/10/2010 16:38:37 MDT.

Chris H
(-NXP-) - F

Locale: Upper Midwest
Re: Tarp,groundcloth,bug net suggestions for frugal newbie on 06/10/2010 17:40:07 MDT Print View

While certainly not as light as I'd like to be, my setup is on the frugal end and has all the requirements you're asking for.

I went with a Golite SL1 nest to do the duty of a bugnet/ground cloth (weight = 16oz, mine came in at 15.5 on my cheap scale without the stuff sack), and a Kelty Noah's Tarp 9 (29oz per manuf, haven't weighed mine).

I'm using UL throw line for cordage, and the whole kit cost me under 120$ buying everything on specials.

If I could do it over again, I'd just ask in the GS section for an 8x10 siltarp instead of the Noah's Tarp purchase to save on weight for the money. I'm not against used gear at all.

The extra room under the tarp is really nice when it's down pouring though.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Tarp,groundcloth,bug net suggestions for frugal newbie on 06/10/2010 17:57:24 MDT Print View

There's also the Luxe Twinpeak.

Edited by leaftye on 06/10/2010 17:58:25 MDT.

John Stultz
(wayoutthere)
Re: Lightweight canopy tarp and bug net on 06/10/2010 20:54:44 MDT Print View

Sorry about that. I should have signed it as John at Bear Paw Tents.