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Juston Taul
(Junction)

Locale: Atlanta, GA
Baladeo 34 Gram (1.19 oz) Knife on 06/09/2010 18:05:26 MDT Print View

First heard about this knife a long time ago. I was going to buy one a long time ago for product testing, but it somehow fell through the cracks.

For you "Backpack" magazine fans, this knife recently resurfaced in the June 2010 edition. I thought some of you might not be familiar.

Retails for $34.99

http://www.baladeo.com/produits.php?langue=en&tri=univers&id_rubrique=12&id_sous=17&identifiant=ECO095#titre

Here are a few pictures I took direction from the site.

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Ankar Sheng
(Whiskyjack) - MLife

Locale: The Canadian Shield
Re: Baladeo 34 Gram (1.19 oz) Knife on 06/09/2010 18:13:23 MDT Print View

That knife doesn't look particularly safe, sturdy or comfortable to use.

Hard to tell but it looks like a frame lock but I wouldn't trust it with out a scale on the other side to keep your hand from engaging it. The other scale also adds a lot of strength to the blade, everything on this is held together by the pin and the tang thats been cut out for the lock making it even weaker.

I'd never even toss that in my nice backpack, the blades exposed and with such poor design i doubt they put a detent help keep it closed.

All round ditching a scale, which if made from titanium and skeletonized weighs next to nothing, is a horrible idea.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Baladeo on 06/09/2010 18:25:51 MDT Print View

I would much prefer my Gerber LST for the same weight.

Ankar Sheng
(Whiskyjack) - MLife

Locale: The Canadian Shield
Buck 78 gram (2.78 oz) knife :) on 06/09/2010 18:36:07 MDT Print View

buckmayo

Here's a light knife that I can fully endorse. Been carrying one every day for the last few years. Top quality CPM S30V stainless with the best heat treatment in the business (Paul Bos), teflon washers, titanium handles with a tempered locking bar, excellent detent (knife can't be snapped open).

Alex Gilman
(Vertigo) - F

Locale: Washington
Ouch on 06/09/2010 18:36:13 MDT Print View

It looks neat in that straight razor kind of way. I would never trust it though. That thing just looks dangerous.

Juston Taul
(Junction)

Locale: Atlanta, GA
No knife expert... on 06/09/2010 18:45:33 MDT Print View

However, I would spend $35 just to try it out. It might not be perfect and is definitely not something I would want to test the strength of, but for 34grams it might be a good option for some.

I'll try it and let you guys know what I think of it. I'll see what it takes to break it. :D

Brian Camprini
(bcamprini) - MLife

Locale: Southern Appalachians
Re: No knife expert... on 06/09/2010 21:07:18 MDT Print View

I'm certainly no knife expert either, but I went to the BLADE show in Atlanta this weekend and kind of got spoiled. Not sure if I can ever use a junky knife again after handling some of the cool stuff there.

I asked some guys carrying knives worth thousands of $ for advice on a good, inexpensive, lightweight backpacking knife and they all unanimously agreed on a Dozier-designed Ka-Bar lock blade folder. I got one (Rob Dozier himself gifted one to my son actually) and I can say this thing is a sturdy little beast. They are going for $17 on Amazon. Only 2.3 oz on my scale and it has a little belt clip that could be removed. Mine's black with a regular silver blade. They come in several colors. Dozier's fixed blades are works of art, but much pricier.

http://www.amazon.com/KA-BAR-Dozier-Folding-hunter-orange/dp/B001T7H01U

Juston Taul
(Junction)

Locale: Atlanta, GA
Benchmade on 06/09/2010 22:01:29 MDT Print View

I'll stick with my 1.8oz Benchmade 530

John McAlpine
(HairlessApe) - M

Locale: PNW
Benchmade 530 on 06/10/2010 09:20:51 MDT Print View

Ditto...........

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Baladeo 34g on 06/30/2010 10:03:10 MDT Print View

I've been using the Baladeo knife for several months and I'm not a knife guy. The only utility I've been able to find with a knife to make it worth the weight, and hassle of keeping track of it, is for cleaning fish. Other than that, its uses seem limited to me on the trail for *most* types of backpacking.

That said, the concerns that I've seen voiced about the Baladeo 34g are probably based on looking at the design rather than using it. When I first held the knife, I had the same concerns about safety, stowage, carrying it in pocket, etc.

The lock is not secure and it's easy to disengage the lock during use. The lock does provide more security than the lock on some heavier knives, like the BM 530.

So what! I learned to whittle on a non-locking buck knife, and when I teach knife use to young kids I always start them on a non-locking knife. It forces you into good technique. Locks can make you lazy. However, locks allow you to do more things with a knife safely -- I will grant that.

I really like the Baladeo 34. Beautiful aesthetics, the quality is excellent, and for my primary use -- cleaning fish and whittling shavings for starting woodfires -- it works great. I carry it clipped into my pants pocket and I've never lost it, and it's never posed a safety problem and accidentally disengaging in my pocket, where I'm scrambling, bushwhacking, or trail walking.

Juston Taul
(Junction)

Locale: Atlanta, GA
Let's be realistic. on 06/30/2010 13:34:35 MDT Print View

The lock does provide more security than the lock on some heavier knives, like the BM 530.

This is not an accurate statement. An axis lock is much stronger than a liner lock. Any knife enthusiast knows this to be common knowledge. Hell, even a back lock is much stronger.

Kronos Master of Fate
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Baladeo 34g on 06/30/2010 14:17:03 MDT Print View

Does the chisel grind make it more ergonomic to use for rightys only? You would have to tilt downward if you are left handed, wouldn't you?

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Baledo knife on 06/30/2010 14:50:13 MDT Print View

It is light and cheap, but there's not much else to talk about. I don't like the handle or lock design and I would like to know what alloy the steel is.

If you are using it for food prep, you might as well have a Victorinox paring knife that is 3/4oz and $4.50 US.

I would go for any Swiss Army knife or an Opinel before this one.

For food prep and cleaning fish, do keep cleaning in mind. The Swiss Army knives are miserable to get the gunk out of the innards.

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: Baledo knife on 06/30/2010 15:54:55 MDT Print View

Just to comment on the Opinel, of which I am a huge fan, and seem to be an unintentional collector of, there's one major flaw to the design that doesn't lend itself too well to outdoors work.

If they get wet, the wood swells and they can be impossible to open in the field. Bang for buck though, these guys are in the realm of Moras/Pukkas.

Donald Kevilus
(fourdogstove) - F

Locale: Woodlands
No. 7 Opinel on 06/30/2010 16:14:38 MDT Print View

I am with Dale and Javan
A # 7 opinel weighs 30 grams,
3 inch blade, SURE ! fire locking and fits nice in pocket
or hand.
Easy to sharpen and even floats !

I have never had a problem with a well seasoned one to hard to open and if it does do the "frap".

At only $ 12.00 retail a person can not go wrong. With wide use by millions through out the globe for a tryed and proven folder it has truly passed the test of time.

Edited by fourdogstove on 06/30/2010 16:19:35 MDT.

Juston Taul
(Junction)

Locale: Atlanta, GA
Opinel on 06/30/2010 17:22:50 MDT Print View

Only one problem I see with this knife... It's a French company. ;)

Fred eric
(Fre49) - MLife

Locale: France, vallée de la Loire
baladéo on 06/30/2010 21:40:44 MDT Print View

baladéo is a french company too :)
créated by Luc Foin and Stéphane Lebeau in 1995.

Juston Taul
(Junction)

Locale: Atlanta, GA
Only kidding on 07/01/2010 16:24:51 MDT Print View

I have nothing against them. Just teasing a little.

Michael Davis
(mad777) - F

Locale: South Florida
Opinel and filleting fish? on 07/02/2010 12:11:30 MDT Print View

How are these Opinel's for filleting fish? The weight would indicate a very thin blade, I would think.

Donald Kevilus
(fourdogstove) - F

Locale: Woodlands
Re: Opinel and filleting fish? on 07/02/2010 13:44:32 MDT Print View

They actual have a thinner more flexable style thats is excellent as a fillet knife, the slim knife series.
There are 4 different sizes, stainless steel blade.