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Clayton Mauritzen
(GlacierRambler) - F

Locale: NW Montana
Re: Re: Re: Re: Tent SOTMR on 02/16/2012 19:14:00 MST Print View

Oh, and I'd like to see the GoLite Shangri-la 1 too.

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tent SOTMR on 02/16/2012 20:38:56 MST Print View

"Oh, and I'd like to see the GoLite Shangri-la 1 too."

I as well. I'd also like to add the Sierra Designs Origami and Mountain Guide tarps to the list, though the latter might be better suited to a more extreme category, and also the Nemo Pentalite and Transform. And the MSR Twin Sisters, and the MLD Circus Tent, if it's still in production. :)

William Chilton
(WilliamC3) - MLife

Locale: Antakya
Re: SOTMR Thoughts on 02/17/2012 01:09:23 MST Print View

Dan Said "Although there's some awesome 2 person trekking pole supported shelters out there, I'd focus on 1 person shelters because a trekking pole design often works better for one person than two (for headroom reasons mostly). There are 2 trekking pole shelters that work well, but a lot of designs work better for one so you're going to get a more interesting test group if you look at one person shelters."
For me, this seems like a very good reason to INCLUDE 2 person shelters, to see which ones do work. I would like to see the SL2 and Stratospire 2 included.

diego dean
(cfionthefly) - M
Easton Kilo 1P on 02/17/2012 05:42:48 MST Print View

I know it doesn't fall within the trekking pole support tents. But when it's released I'd really like to see a good review on the Easton Kilo 1P tent. The weight, and more importantly pack size of this tent is intriguing to me.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: SOTMR Thoughts on 02/21/2012 16:48:18 MST Print View

We obviously can't include every possible shelter that sleeps 1 or 2 people in a single SOTM (ok, maybe we could but it'd take forever to get published and be a bear). I'm open to doing separate 1 person and 2 person SOTMs, if there's a real need. A lot of these newer shelters can sleep 1+ or come in both a 1p and 2p version where only the dimensions vary, so separate reviews probably doesn't make sense. You guys tell me what you want though.

These are definite:

Zpacks Hexatent 1+
LightHeart - Solong 6 or Solo (not 100% sure which yet)
HMG Echo - option here is the 1 or the 2 but apparently most people are buying the 2 for the minimal weight difference

Damien Tougas
(dtougas) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Gaspé Peninsula
Re: Re: SOTMR Thoughts on 02/21/2012 17:12:32 MST Print View

Don't we already have an HMG Echo review? Would we do another, or would we just include the specs from that review?

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: SOTMR Thoughts on 02/21/2012 17:24:47 MST Print View

We do. There are changes being made to the 1 (10-15% larger), but nothing has been done as of yet. I'm open to doing it either way. Doing an updated review would mostly just offer another perspective and be under different conditions.

Clayton Mauritzen
(GlacierRambler) - F

Locale: NW Montana
Re: Re: SOTMR Thoughts on 02/21/2012 17:29:09 MST Print View

Is there a particular number of shelters you'd like to keep it to?

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: SOTMR Thoughts on 02/21/2012 17:34:30 MST Print View

I'm thinking 10 tops and even that would likely require splitting them up. It would also take a month or two to see all of the pieces published (based on current trends anyway).

Kevin Whittington
(kevinw60) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountain West
Easton Kilo 1p on 02/26/2012 09:13:41 MST Print View

Received my Kilo 1p last week and set it up inside to check it out. Looks really good. I am a small guy, (5'7") and 160 lbs, so the 1p is sufficient. If I were much bigger though it would probably be claustrophobic. Initially, there are two things I would change. #1, when I was in the Bridger in the Cirque of the Towers a couple years ago, there were bright colored tents everywhere. Some were day-glo neon and the whole area felt crowded. (last time I was there in 1974 we had the whole place to ourselves so I guess I'm spoiled). I wish the Kilo fly was a more muted green. #2, it seemed to need a guy out point just above my head and to the left as I was laying down. I am not sure how to add one though as it would need to penetrate the fly and attach to the mesh tent body. I am open to suggestions. I like the side entrance and the vestibule is larger than expected.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: SOTMR Thoughts on 02/27/2012 06:20:01 MST Print View

Any interest in the Sea to Summit Specialist?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re SOTMR Thoughts on 02/27/2012 06:26:57 MST Print View

The Specialist. Too short, and what's with a 37 inch wide double? Pass.

diego dean
(cfionthefly) - M
Re: Easton Kilo 1p on 02/27/2012 07:01:08 MST Print View

Kevin...Im thinking of getting this tent, but your comments about you being much bigger might make you feel claustrophobic has me worried. Was it the height or the width or maybe both that had you feeling this way.

Im 6'2 200lbs and from the demensions it looked like me and my pad would fit rather nicely, but maybe not. Do the head and foot ends have a good vertical slope to them. If you could take some pics and maybe do a little review that would be great to those of us considering this tent.

Thanks.

Edited by cfionthefly on 02/27/2012 07:01:45 MST.

Conner D
(cdipaolo) - F

Locale: SoCal
tents on 02/27/2012 08:12:11 MST Print View

I think it would be great if you included an MLD pyramid, such as the Duomid, and come cuben offering from Bear Paw, such as the Bear den w/ vestibule or the Luna.
-Conner

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
When is the Tent SOTMR coming out? on 02/27/2012 09:25:11 MST Print View

And........I was just going to say Bear Paw. I am always one person too late.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: When is the Tent SOTMR coming out? on 02/29/2012 13:47:15 MST Print View

Here's what I have in hand or in route:

HMG Echo II (my personal shelter) - HMG hasn't made any changes to the I or II at this point, so I'm not inclined to do another review but I would definitely include the measurements for comparison and the original review could be linked to in the overall SOTMR page(s).

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Zpacks Hexamid Solo-Plus tent - Joe indicated this was his most popular version of the Hexamid.

LightHeart SoLong 6 - This includes the awning and rear door options.

Both of these are light enough for 1 but can sleep a couple (two burly men would be interesting to say the least). Both also use poles in such a way that living space is not encroached upon.

Given these parameters, I'm inclined to adjust the criteria for this SOTMR to this:

Space for 1+
Trekking pole supported
Double-wall or hybrid single/double
Supports are not in the middle of the sheltered space
Light enough for solo use

That would changes things a bit but keep the scope more defined.

With that in mind, I'd like to list off shelters that fit.

GoLite Shangri-La 1 tent - 23 sq ft @ 36 oz (not really big enough for two but spacious for one)

GoLite Shangri-La 2 tent - 45 sq ft @ 50 oz (spacious for even two men, but maybe too heavy for solo use)

MLD DuoMid + net - 29 oz with duo net or 24.5 oz with solo net (assuming pole outside the net if solo and inverted V using two poles if duo)

TarpTent StratoSpire 1 - 19 sq ft @ 33 oz (same as the Shangri-La 1)

TarpTent StratoSpire 2 - 31 sq ft @ 40 oz (not much heavier than the 1 and enough space for two)

SMD SkyScape Trekker - 23 sq ft @ 24 oz (probably a bit tight for two but cavernous for one)

Nemo Meta 1 - 26 sq ft @ 31 oz (cozy for two but cavernous for one)

Nemo Meta 2 - 36 sq ft @ 47 oz (spacious for two but maybe too heavy for solo)

Bear Paw - too many options to list

What else am I missing? Thoughts on these?

Edited by simplespirit on 02/29/2012 13:49:43 MST.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: When is the Tent SOTMR coming out? on 02/29/2012 13:53:32 MST Print View

Chris - the Tarptent Notch?

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: When is the Tent SOTMR coming out? on 02/29/2012 13:57:45 MST Print View

My thought is that at 15 sq ft the Notch is small, even for one, and doesn't really fit with the others listed. Maybe it deserves its own review?

Edited by simplespirit on 02/29/2012 13:58:18 MST.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: When is the Tent SOTMR coming out? on 02/29/2012 14:02:18 MST Print View

Well I have one and it feels much more spacious than 15sq feet. I think it may have to do with the ends of the inner. The footprint is almost a modified diamond shape and feels roomy. At 6'1" I don't touch the ends or the sides.

A review would be nice all the same.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: Re: Re: When is the Tent SOTMR coming out? on 02/29/2012 14:03:27 MST Print View

Are you volunteering? :-)