I have the Fosters. The caddy weighs 3.0 oz. and I do not use it. I pack everything in a cuben sack that fits snug. Got the sack from zPacks. So the can, cone, stove, cozy, and empty fuel bottle weighs 3.8 oz. For a bowl I was using a Frosted Flakes plastic container at .4 oz. For dinner, I would use the Mountain House bag. On my next trip I am packaging everything into some Ziplock microwave bags, and just add boiling water (oatmeal and Mountain House). I will probably make a Reflectix cozy for the MH meals. At least that is my plan for this weekend. I still have play with the weights. I have to bring microspikes on my trip, and current base is 5lbs 10 oz, and am trying to get rid of some of this weight.