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rhonda rouyer
(rrouyer) - F

Locale: deep south
PCT method question on 05/20/2010 15:31:43 MDT Print View

I am practing the PCT bear bag method. I find the tying the knot up high very difficult. Any suggestions and/or descriptions of how to tie this bowline up high with the extra rope hanging?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: PCT method question on 05/20/2010 15:39:54 MDT Print View

The higher that you can tie the knot, the better. However, you just have to do what you can do. Either that or else bring along a basketball player.

--B.G.--

David Lutz
(davidlutz)

Locale: Bay Area
"PCT method question" on 05/20/2010 15:55:47 MDT Print View

Try this:

Use an "S" biner on the food sack.

Clip the food sack and the rope to the same side of the biner, leaving one side of the biner empty.

Hoist the sack and eyeball the spot on the rope where you want the knot.

Lower the bag and tie a small bowline knot where you want it.

Feed the line through the empty side of the "S" biner and hoist it again. The bowline knot should pass through the biner as you hoist.

Clip another biner onto the bowline and let the rope back out.

The second biner attached to the bowline knot will not pass through the biner attached to the food sack.

Voila!

Of course, you have to carry two biners.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: PCT method question on 05/20/2010 16:59:53 MDT Print View

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=31996&skip_to_post=271383#271383

Clove hitch tying while under a load:

1. Take stick (or extra stake, chop stick, spoon handle, etc) in right hand, reach over head, place stick parallel and left of cord, wrap upper end of stick around cord (back to right to front), turn stick perpendicular to cord (stick now has a single loop of cord around it); now you can control load with stick in right hand using right thumb on cord

2. With left hand (thumb down), grab cord below stick, turn hand up (thumb up), place loop on left end of stick

3. Tighten your clove hitch

For easier removal, it's best to use something smooth like extra stake, dowel, chop stick, skewer.

Edited by jshann on 05/20/2010 17:04:35 MDT.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: PCT method question on 05/20/2010 17:32:37 MDT Print View

"For easier removal, it's best to use something smooth like extra stake, dowel, chop stick, skewer"

I've found that it helps to throw a couple of extra loops of line around the stick on both sides when tying a clove hitch under pressure. It makes it a lot easier to control the load and also easier to untie the knot.

Kier Selinsky
(Kieran) - F

Locale: Seattle, WA
Knotless PCT Hang on 05/20/2010 20:01:47 MDT Print View

This might be exactly what you are looking for, courtesy of your BPL premium membership:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/myog_knotless_pct_bear_bag_hang.html

Will Webster
(WillWeb) - M
slipknot on 05/20/2010 20:20:00 MDT Print View

I just tie a slipknot in the rope and put my stick through it. If the bag is too close to the trunk I'll tie off the end of the the rope to another tree and pull the slack out, so the bag is between the two trees. This means that the knot will be too tight to pull the stick out the next morning, so I break it at the knot.

Piper S.
(sbhikes) - F

Locale: Santa Barbara (Name: Diane)
Re: PCT method question on 05/20/2010 20:52:55 MDT Print View

My PCT bear bag method (when bear canisters were not required):

Food in trash compactor bag.
Put bag in tent.
Sleep.

I had absolutely no problems with bears on the PCT.

rhonda rouyer
(rrouyer) - F

Locale: deep south
Re: Re: PCT method question on 05/20/2010 22:28:12 MDT Print View

I saw a video of this method on backpackertv.com. Went outside and practiced...pretty easy. Think I got it now....thanks to all

David Lutz
(davidlutz)

Locale: Bay Area
"PCT method question" on 05/20/2010 22:32:36 MDT Print View

Piper - That cracks me up! Much ado about nothing, huh?


I asked a buddy once what he was going to do with his food that night and he said "sleep with it".

rhonda rouyer
(rrouyer) - F

Locale: deep south
Re: "PCT method question" on 05/21/2010 08:51:43 MDT Print View

Well if I were hiking where bears and critters are a non issue I might want to do the same. But...heading to the Smokies so better get it right. Even raccons and chipmunks (mini bears) can be just as much a risk when it comes to protecting your food.

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: Re: "PCT method question" on 05/21/2010 09:45:31 MDT Print View

You do not need to do the PCT meathod in the Smokies. They have bear cables at all of the campsites and shelters already. I am not saying that it is a bad skill to learn as you have to hang anywhere else in the area outside the park.

Edited by Mocs123 on 05/21/2010 09:47:38 MDT.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: "PCT method question-Smokies" on 05/21/2010 20:41:03 MDT Print View

"You do not need to do the PCT meathod in the Smokies."

That's why it's called the PCT method. ;)