im looking for a comfortable cargo or non cargo pant that are non convertible, durable, and weighs less than a pound. so far the only thing ive come across are craghoppers pants. their lightest pant is 11.5oz and their lightest cargo pant is 13oz. their heaviest is just under a pound.
im looking for other suggestions based on experience. thanks

I don't know the weight of any Kuhl pants, but they are supremely comfortable, mine seem to be lasting quite well, and they have nice pockets.
Do you really notice how much your pants weigh as you are hiking? I don't think an extra ounce or two on your pants will really slow you down too much, and I would focus more on comfort/durability/usefulness than weight.

I had some lightweight non-convertible nylon cargo pants that weighed about 11 ounces. However, in three trips they sustained three fabric rips, so I won't claim that they are durable.

To many hikers, the weight of the pants is more of a weather/temperature/warmth adaptation thing rather than a a load to be carried.

I hate convertible pants.

--B.G.--

everything weighs something.... on that note i really dont mind a pant that does weigh 16oz because it will be more durable than lighter pants. My Marine Corp cammies must weigh at least 1.5-2lbs each and dont pack small at all. but they are very very comfortable. im just looking for something thats "relatively lightweight", durable, stylish and will pack small. ive really got my eyes on these at the moment...



SPECS:
Tough supplex combined with stretch panels for unrestrictive movement
8 pocket construction
2 mesh hand pockets, 1 security pocket, 2 button rear pocket, 2 cargo pockets one with zip, one with phone holder
Drying loops
Ankle reinforcement
Protective boot tape
Full protection SolarDry UPF40+ fabric
NosiLife insect-repellent & antibacterial treatment
100% Polyamide
15.8oz

Edited by bryan0311 on 05/20/2010 16:16:33 MDT.

i hate convertible pants as well. the zippers seem to break at the worst time!

Edited by bryan0311 on 05/20/2010 14:41:00 MDT.

Hey Bryan what pants are those that you have pictured?

those are the craghoppers Bear Survivor Trousers.

Edited by bryan0311 on 05/20/2010 16:15:51 MDT.

arc teryx palisade pants. 10.4 oz. i find them very comfortable and durable.

I am very partial to Railriders pants. The toughest and best outdoors pants I've ever used.

Dan

http://www.railriders.com/men-weatherpants-with-insect-shield-p-973.html?cPath=104_110

Edited by DBthal on 05/20/2010 17:23:47 MDT.

I like Ex Officio Amphi pants. Dry fast, built in mesh brief, fairly durable, less than a pound.

+1 here for the Ex-Officio Amphib pants. I cut the mesh brief out. Mine are also convertible which I love. I think these are about 11oz. Ex-Officio does make non-convertible pants as well.

long,
just checked the exo's out. ive never heard of them till now and i think i like em.

I use Patagonia GI 2 hiking pants which weigh about 11.5oz with a built in belt. They can be easily modified to 10oz depending on what features you want to keep. They have been super durable for me. After 2 years of use they've only got one small hole in them which was from a burly crash downhill mtb'ing. I got mine at the Patagonia outlet in Utah for ~$25.

http://www.patagonia.com/web/us/product/patagonia-mens-gi-ii-pants?p=55027-0-176

Since u hate coverts these may be out of option for ya but worth a look anyway, for a size 32 they weigh 9.9oz, are SPF 45, dwr, sturdy zipper, very breatheable Via cool touch fabric, tough as nails-survived many thorn encounters nonproblem, and feel great. Best pants I ever useD. When u zip the legs off the shorts actually go down and past the knee like rgular shorts. Cloudveil cool convertible, 54 shipped at the trout shop onlne, reguarly 100 plus

Edited by isaac.mouser on 05/21/2010 09:33:37 MDT.

I Like convertible pants (in AZ especially), you just have to find ones with a durable zipper. Take a look at the MH Mesa's

+1 on Railriders. I've tried them all (it seems) over the years, and Railriders really hold up. They come in so many configurations, that you can pretty much choose your poison. In winter, especially, I like the old fashioned Weatherpants, but they have lighter, summer versions, as well.

Stargazer

I like the Gramicci G pants..the quick dry Nylon version..I need to put those on the scale...they are much lighter than the cotton version.

I have 2 pair of "5.11" brand pants. They are made for law enforcement but are great for backpacking

SPECS:
1. nylon "canvas" material
2. double knees W inside opening for inserting 5.11 1/8" neoprene pads (good for rock scrambling)
3. double seat
4. cargo pockets W/ Velcro closures
5. $50. price


Eric

Edited by Danepacker on 05/21/2010 13:30:03 MDT.

Same issue here, but finding pants for us taller folks is an additional challenge. Many gear manufacturers think that tall means a 32" inseam.

The 5.11 pants are decent, and come in 34"+ lengths, but the fit through the legs is a bit tight and they don't stretch at all - the reinforced knee patches wore my knees raw on a somewhat steep hike last year.

How did I miss that REI made their Sahara pants in a non-convertible version??

http://www.rei.com/product/794404

My Sahara pants have lasted me almost a decade and look almost brand new. They dry very fast except for the area around the leg zip. This non-convertible version won't have that problem.