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Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
My son just won the Big West Conference 10K on 05/18/2010 00:45:45 MDT Print View

A little bragging...

This past Friday my son, Joe, won the Big West Conference 10K title with a time of 30:58. He came in 5th in 5K on Saturday with a time of 14:45, almost a minute slower than he ran a month ago. He just didn't have enough gas in the tank after Friday's race.

His next race is the 5K at the NCAA Division I Regional Meet in Austin, TX May 27-29th.

Joe is a senior at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, and is graduating next month. His major is biology, and he is looking to a career in the outdoors. He will probably run professionally for a few years after graduation.

The Big West Conference schools are:
Cal Poly SLO
Cal State University Fullerton
Cal State University Northridge
Long Beach State University
University of California Davis
University of California Santa Barbara
University of California Irvine
University of California Riverside

Here are the videos of the 10K. Joe is in 2nd place most of the first 5K and then runs away from the field by a substantial margin.

10K Part 1

10K Part 2

During his college career he won 4 individual conference titles, two conference athlete of the year awards, and made it to the NCAA Cross Country finals 4 years.

His best times are (MM:SEC):

800 meters = 1:53 (high School)
1500 meters = 3:46 (~ 4:04 mile)
3000 meters = 8:10
2 mile = 8:58
5000 meters = 13:57
10000 meters = 30:58

David Lutz
(davidlutz)

Locale: Bay Area
"My son just won the Big West Conference 10K" on 05/18/2010 00:52:19 MDT Print View

Nice work! Having the opportunity to brag on your kids is never a bad thing!

For those of us who don't know, how does one run professionally? Is there a circuit with sponsors and prize money, etc.?

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: "My son just won the Big West Conference 10K" on 05/18/2010 02:09:56 MDT Print View

Actually very few people can even make a living running. Big races like the Boston Marathon and other high profile races throughout the world have sizable purses. The 2010 Boston winners (M/F) got $150,000 each.

Elite runners are often sponsored by companies like Nike, Puma, Adidas, etc. and receive money for a contracted period of time, and must meet certain standards such as times; entering certain races, do advertising, etc. They also can earn substantial bonuses by winning certain races or breaking World or American records. American runners will run mostly here in the U.S. and Europe. I cannot speak to how things in other countries.

Lesser runners can get a sponsorship that only includes equipment and race entrance fees, and sometimes travel to races.

There are many minor road races where a runner can win $5,000 or more.

In Joe's case he has run the 5K only about 5 or 6 times with a best of 13:57. I think he can get down to around 13:30 very soon. That would earn him $0. If he could consistently run around 13:15, he could make $30K - $50K per year. Go below 13:00 and now he would be looking at $250K - $300K. Of course the runner's career does not last long. A few distance runners make 7 figure incomes. Some sprinters make big money.

For Joe, he wants to see what he can do during the next couple of years, without the pressure of going to school. He will try to find a job that will allow him to work around his training.

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
"My son just won the Big West Conference 10K" on 05/18/2010 05:49:59 MDT Print View

Awesome! Congratulations to you both. Joe was movin' in that race, he has a motor.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: "My son just won the Big West Conference 10K" on 05/18/2010 08:44:50 MDT Print View

Cool Nick.

Jennifer W
(tothetrail) - MLife

Locale: So. Cal.
Re: My son just won the Big West Conference 10K on 05/18/2010 09:34:07 MDT Print View

Wow, what an accomplishment--Looks like he is quite the athlete!

That's a tough major to combine with playing sports, the labs are very time consuming.

Thanks for sharing and best of luck to him.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: My son just won the Big West Conference 10K on 05/18/2010 10:52:03 MDT Print View

Congratulations to Joe! And to his proud papa!

Very cool.

Jim W.
(jimqpublic) - MLife

Locale: So-Cal
Re: My son just won the Big West Conference 10K on 05/18/2010 11:45:20 MDT Print View

Congratulations Nick (and Joe).

That's one speedy kid you have.

Dirk Rabdau
(dirk9827) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: My son just won the Big West Conference 10 on 05/18/2010 13:13:40 MDT Print View

Outstanding. Best of luck to your son at the Naitonal meet and beyond! Some extremely stiff competition there - the 10K record was just set again this year.

Edited by dirk9827 on 05/18/2010 13:18:22 MDT.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Re: "My son just won the Big West Conference 10K" on 05/18/2010 13:28:01 MDT Print View

The best I ever ran a 5K was about 17:30, nowhere near as fast as your son. I need to look up Prefontaine's old records.

Christopher Plesko
(Pivvay) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: Re: Re: "My son just won the Big West Conference 10K" on 05/18/2010 14:09:11 MDT Print View

Congrats, that is freaking awesome work. Serious props to anyone who puts in the work to run that fast!

Josh Newkirk
(Newkirk) - MLife

Locale: Australia
Pre on 01/16/2011 00:34:09 MST Print View

Steve Prefontaine's first american record was 13.22.8 for the 5000m

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Pre on 01/16/2011 03:14:18 MST Print View

Pre...

I hear a lot about him, since his birthday and Joe's are the same day, January 25th :)

Current American Record is 12:56 set by Dathan Ritzehein in August 2009.

World Record is 12:37 by Kenenisa Bekele of Ethiopia in May 2004.

Of the fastest 25 5,000 times recorded, non are by Americans, or Brits, or Canucks, or Aussies :)

Pre held 15 American records, although he never held a world record. He pretty much owned college distance running, only losing 3 races in his collegiate career. This was during they "heyday" of American distance running.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Pre on 01/16/2011 17:39:00 MST Print View

"Of the fastest 25 5,000 times recorded, non are by Americans, or Brits, or Canucks, or Aussies"

Put another way: How many of the fastest 25 5 K times were not Eithopian or Kenyan?

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: Re: Pre on 01/17/2011 02:48:12 MST Print View

"Put another way: How many of the fastest 25 5 K times were not Eithopian or Kenyan?"

Or Moroccan.

That probably would leave about 2 people :)

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre on 01/17/2011 17:42:35 MST Print View

"That probably would leave about 2 people"

That's what I would have thought, too, but actually there are a fair number of Moroccans and even a couple of Ugandans sprinkled throughout the top 25. The one I thought I'd overlooked, Said Aouita, didn't even make the top 25, even though he was the first to crack 13:00:00. Things have come a long way.