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Does UL trickle to your other hobbies?
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Jarrett Lambright
(jlamb) - F

Locale: Western PA
Does UL trickle to your other hobbies? on 04/28/2010 19:43:38 MDT Print View

I am really just starting to focus on getting my packweight down, but I am curious if this type of thinking is affecting your other hobbies. I for one really like to mountain bike and road bike, which I probably do more of than backpacking cause of time constraints. Anyway, I now try to look at ways to shave down my hydration pack weight, and only carrying the essentials on my road bike. I bet others are doing the same with their hobbies.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Does UL trickle to your other hobbies? on 04/28/2010 21:17:34 MDT Print View

For me, yes.

I was a traveler before I took up hiking/backpacking. Many of the techniques -- selecting light weight gear, wearing wicking, quick-drying apparel, layering, etc. carried well from one to the other.

But it was in hiking that I became much more serious about cutting weight. And once I got accustomed to this mode of thinking, many of the UL techniques then carried back to my traveling!

Last year, I traveled for seven months around the world with just a 28L day pack. It contained everything I needed -- and it was never much more than half full.

Mike McHenry
(mtmche2) - F
Mountain Biking on 04/28/2010 21:33:20 MDT Print View


I guess weight will always be on the mind after going UL. I think next to backpacking, travel itineraries such as Ben's above are just as suited to an UL mentality. I too am a mountain biker. Perhaps I haven't thought about weight as much since I carry much less gear in my hydration pack than I would on, say, a 3 day backpacking trip.

On a side note, maybe I will send you a PM. I would be interested in knowing some of the MTB trails out your way as I am from the east side of Cleveland. I have heard that there are some great MTB trails east of me, but have never had anyone to ride with.

Tony Beasley
(tbeasley) - MLife

Locale: Pigeon House Mt from the Castle
Re: Does UL trickle to your other hobbies? on 04/29/2010 00:07:51 MDT Print View

Hi Jarrett,

I took up vets road bike racing last year after purchasing a new CF Giant roadie I saved 2kg and as funds became available I got the lightest gear that I could afford, lighter tires, tubes, pedals, shoes, bottle cage, bottles, spare tube and storage bag, bike pump all up I saved about a kilo and most of that was from rotation weight.

If I had unlimited funds I could save a lot more weight.

All of this was from being a student of UL backpacking.


Scott Lehr
(lehrscott4) - F

Locale: Louisville - KY
UL Micro RC aircraft on 04/29/2010 04:54:37 MDT Print View

I do fly alot of UL radio control airplanes and helicopters. I have a number of planes that are fully functional 3 or 4 channel models that are well under 1 oz, complete with motor, reciever, battery and all.My collection

>> Bender <<
(Bender) - MLife

Locale: NEO
Re: Mountain Biking on 04/29/2010 09:28:07 MDT Print View

UL MTBiking was first, then it trickled into backpacking.

This is my 18.63 pound Turner Nitrous

Build specs can be found here!

Edited by Bender on 04/29/2010 09:29:54 MDT.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: UL Micro RC aircraft on 04/29/2010 10:44:21 MDT Print View

Very nice toys!! I am so jealous...

Piper S.
(sbhikes) - F

Locale: Santa Barbara (Name: Diane)
Re: Does UL trickle to your other hobbies? on 04/29/2010 19:15:22 MDT Print View

I ride a recumbent tricycle. A lot of the people I ride with add a lot of junk to their trikes, taking what might be a 30lb machine up to double that. I keep mine light and carry little with me. I learned a lot about what to eat and drink to maintain my energy and hydration over long distances with little weight. I use what I've learned when riding my trike. I completed a 50 miler last weekend and even though it was only the 4th time I rode my trike all year, I'm pretty sure I could have done the 75 mile ride instead.

As for other hobbies? Well, I've got a sewing machine now. You can guess the things I want to sew with it.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Does UL trickle to your other hobbies? on 04/29/2010 19:19:56 MDT Print View

UL isn't a hobby. It's more of a way of life.


Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
"Does UL trickle to your other hobbies?" on 04/29/2010 19:50:46 MDT Print View

My trail runs have become a whole lot lighter and minimalist in nature. So I suppose in some small way, yes, it does. Not exactly a methodical and deliberate decision as decreasing my pack weight/items has been over the last few years.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Re: Does UL trickle to your other hobbies? on 04/29/2010 20:21:47 MDT Print View

"UL isn't a hobby. It's more of a way of life.


I've seen pics of various members' gear closets (and even gear rooms), Bob. I wouldn't make that an automatic assumption.

(onthecouchagain) - MLife

Locale: Sunny SoCal
+1 SCUBA on 04/29/2010 23:57:49 MDT Print View

Diving is a gear intensive sport and of course you are on life-support equipment BUT in can be done.

Pick one activity for the dive and stick to it---saw a guy enter the water with a video camera, spear gun, lobster bag and gauge! I can only imagine what that dive might have been like.

mantra...'less is more' 'less is more'....repeat

Edited by onthecouchagain on 04/30/2010 08:46:06 MDT.

James Naphas
(naphas13) - MLife

Locale: SoCal
Road biking on 04/30/2010 00:08:00 MDT Print View

UL backpackers have nothing on gram wienie roadies. Like in backpacking, I'm more of a lightweight than UL in cycling, but I do have a 15.5 lb 58cm bike (including pedals) that I built up myself. Though I didn't go for the Ti bolts, there are a bunch of carbon fiber bits to go along with the frame. I could get it down below 15 lbs if I were to spend a couple grand on CF wheels, but that really isn't a priority.

As in backpacking, there is a trade-off to some degree between weight and durability.

/A .
(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: Does UL trickle to your other hobbies? on 04/30/2010 00:09:08 MDT Print View

Professionally, I design houses with small footprints and UL environmental impact.

This recent home has very pleasant interior earthen plaster walls. Most of the materials were sourced on-sight or in the immediate neighborhood:
Earthen Plaster

Lee Fitler
(tdilf) - F
Bikes here too on 05/03/2010 20:20:47 MDT Print View

My weight weenie-ism started with biking too - mountain and road. I was already backpacking then too but the weight thing wasn't a focus like it is now. More of a way of life for everything now. You should see my new kayak paddle.

BTW - nice rig Bender, anyone who is on light-bikes is serious.

Edited by tdilf on 05/03/2010 20:22:00 MDT.

>> Bender <<
(Bender) - MLife

Locale: NEO
Re: Bikes here too on 05/03/2010 20:47:37 MDT Print View

BTW - nice rig Bender, anyone who is on light-bikes is serious.

Thanks tdilf :)

I'm about to drop another 1/4 pound or so with a Cannondale Hollowgram SL crankset! I would love to have this bike under 18 pounds.

Speaking of RC & light weight I made this 6.6g 2 channel RC air plane out of aero ace & picco z parts.

Edited by Bender on 05/03/2010 20:52:32 MDT.

Elizabeth Tracy
(mariposa) - M

Locale: Outside
bike touring on 05/04/2010 11:13:21 MDT Print View

I am starting to do some bike touring. I'm delighted to find that not only the philosophy, but the very equipment (tent, sleep setup, stove, etc.) can be transferred directly from lightweight backpacking to lightweight touring.

That said, I've been surprised by how many bike-tour folks are not even considering going more lightweight. They load their bikes like a Clydesdale workhorse - and then insist that I, too, will end up that way if I am serious. Some people even tell me to get a heavier bike! (...of course, the heavier bike is to carry the heavier load...)

The 'heavy packing' philosophy seems even more entrenched in the bike touring community than in the backpacking community.


Christopher Plesko
(Pivvay) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: bike touring on 05/04/2010 12:29:32 MDT Print View

Elizabeth, check out ;)

Elizabeth Tracy
(mariposa) - M

Locale: Outside on 05/04/2010 22:14:22 MDT Print View

Wow. Great site. But it's all about mountain biking. Is there a road biking equivalent?

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: on 05/05/2010 04:26:06 MDT Print View