Cuben Hammock "Beta Test Models" For Sale
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Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Cuben Hammock "Beta Test Models" For Sale on 04/22/2010 18:04:21 MDT Print View

I am going to sell a few Cuben Hammock "Beta Test Models"... They are 9' long and 53" wide. They weigh 4oz and pack down real small.. The "beta test model" will be the same as the production model but I hope to trade the reduced cost with some feedback.. I will build them with either a channel end or a stopper type knot end depending on your preference.. Email me for more details..

Here is a photo:

Cuben Fiber Hammock Me

Edited by Mountainfitter on 04/30/2010 13:54:24 MDT.

Justin Carter
(orangebananas) - F

Locale: San Francisco East Bay
Cool on 04/22/2010 20:54:40 MDT Print View

Interesting

I might want one, I'll keep you posted.

Ike Mouser
(isaac.mouser) - F
flatter lay on 04/23/2010 07:15:15 MDT Print View

cuben hammocks appear more comfortable than nylon based ones. The flatter lay looks much more comfortable. more comfortable and lighter, rarely are those two things intertwined. GOnna have to make one.

Chad Helmke
(the-gear-recycler) - MLife

Locale: High Rockies
Count me in... on 04/23/2010 07:30:41 MDT Print View

I'll take one. PM me with payment email address and when to pay. Thanks and look forward to it! Chad

Ron D
(dillonr) - MLife

Locale: Colorado
Re: Cuben Hammock "Beta Test Models" For Sale on 04/23/2010 07:40:55 MDT Print View

Hi Lawson - I'd be interested, just let me know the payment arrangement and what sort of report you would like back.
Thanks...Ron

Ike Mouser
(isaac.mouser) - F
weight on 04/23/2010 07:46:23 MDT Print View

does the 4 oz weight include suspension and the metal ring the hammock is positioned around.

Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
3.90oz on 04/23/2010 12:39:46 MDT Print View

The hammock weighs 3.90oz with two pieces of 1' cord at the ends.. Keep in mind the hammock is roughly 10' long before the channel ends are built..

Eric Drew
(VTAduck)

Locale: Sespe Wilderness
PM Sent on 04/23/2010 12:41:40 MDT Print View

For more detail...

Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Folded Seam Vs. Trim Type Seam on 04/27/2010 20:34:06 MDT Print View

To all the beta testers and potential product purchasers...Would your rather see a folded seam or a trim type seam???

Folded seam is lighter while a trim type seam is better looking and stronger...


seam

The hammock in the picture has a 3/4" folded seam but I don't know if you can even tell..

Edited by Mountainfitter on 04/27/2010 20:35:18 MDT.

jim draucker
(mtnjim) - MLife

Locale: Shenandoah Valley VA
Seam on 04/27/2010 20:53:49 MDT Print View

Hello

Weight penalty ?

Thanks for asking
Jim

Edited by mtnjim on 04/27/2010 20:55:19 MDT.

Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Trim Seam on 04/27/2010 20:56:15 MDT Print View

Trim Seam has an extra layer of bonding and cuben so it will weigh more but not by much..maybe 1/4oz.. Might not make sense to use a trim seam especially when the appeal of the hammock how lightweight it is..

jim draucker
(mtnjim) - MLife

Locale: Shenandoah Valley VA
Seam on 04/27/2010 21:07:17 MDT Print View

Hello

IMO go with your gut. If overall function will remain the same? Go Lighter.

Jim

Eric Drew
(VTAduck)

Locale: Sespe Wilderness
Folded Seam on 04/28/2010 16:44:04 MDT Print View

If this is more of a finishing detail and doesn't involve any specific strength/reinforcement need then a folded seam would seem to be best. Would also require less labor on your part.

However, the trim seam may look cleaner/finished, but that is aesthetically subjective I suppose.

Jang-Tian Shieh
(syoten) - MLife

Locale: Taiwan
I'll buy one! on 04/28/2010 18:11:49 MDT Print View

Your bonded cuben products looks great.
I definitely want a "Cuben Hammock "Beta Test Model.
I'll send you message later.

Jangtian

Chad Helmke
(the-gear-recycler) - MLife

Locale: High Rockies
Seam on 04/28/2010 20:17:56 MDT Print View

As I'm not a small man and the weight penalty is 1/4 oz, I'd say the stronger trim seam but truly, I'm game for either. Let us know-Chad

Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Weight on 04/28/2010 22:16:29 MDT Print View

I just weighed a beta test model hammock, stuff sack and suspension setup and and it came out to 5.75oz. I ditched the carabiners so I could drop an additional 2 oz..

The hammock is the same size as is in the photo at 9' long x 52" wide.. The suspension is a 12' long piece of 7/64" Amsteel Blue with a figure 8 loop at one end and stopper knots tied every 12" down the length of the cord. The hammock also has a piece of 7/64" Amsteel Blue that runs through the channel and attaches to the the stopper knot suspension using a cow's hitch. I layed in the new system for a few hours today with no sign of slipping. I chose this setup over a whoopie sling because this allows a direct connection to the tree. Though bark damage could occur, no sign of damage was present on the two pine trees I used today.

I have been thinking of reducing the size of the hammock to 8' long and 48" wide to get it under the 5oz mark. Maybe doing a regular size hammock at 8'x48" at 5oz and a long at 9.5'x52" 6oz... What do you think of sizing and the suspension????

I forgot my camera today so I had to take pictures in my shop tonight..


Cow's Hitch Loose
cows hitch


Cow's Hitch Tight
cows hitch tight


Cow's Hitch Tight Against Stopper Knot
cows hitch tight stopper knot


Size Comparison..
size

Edited by Mountainfitter on 04/28/2010 22:35:03 MDT.

Jang-Tian Shieh
(syoten) - MLife

Locale: Taiwan
8'x52" on 04/28/2010 22:51:40 MDT Print View

I would like a 8'x52" version, since I'm considering using my 5'*8' MLD monk tarp with it. Both 9'*52", and 8'*48' version could be as wide as the my shoulder when I lie in it, but 9' may be too long to be covered by my tarp.

Besides, I don't know if 48" is wide enough to provide me comfort since I have only tried a 8'*54" wide hammock. In my opinion, maybe 52" is better since it can give more coverage to prevent rain from dropping onto the quilt.

Jangtian

Edited by syoten on 04/28/2010 22:52:15 MDT.

James Wyrwicki
(jim1233988) - MLife
beta tester on 04/28/2010 23:20:33 MDT Print View

i would like to try out the longer one. pm me for the payment details.
thanks,
jim

Patrick Baker
(WildMan) - F
Beta Tester Long on 04/29/2010 12:05:18 MDT Print View

I will beta the longer one.
I am 6'2" 230lbs and live in the SouthEast
Kindly PM me with the payment details.
Thanks, WildMan

PS: I prefer the trim type seam

Edited by WildMan on 04/29/2010 12:07:43 MDT.

Russell Slater
(russellds) - MLife

Locale: Georgia
"Cuben Hammock "Beta Test Models" For Sale" on 04/29/2010 12:18:01 MDT Print View

I am definitely interested in picking up a beta model. PM me with the payment information.