If you are going to go with a commericalized 3 person tent, then I would go with the Carbon Reflex 3. I just scored the one you see below me for $425 and it came with a footprint, a $50 value. It is over 2lbs lighter than the Muttha Hubba. My girlfriend loves the tent and is skeptical about tarp tents. So in the end this was money well spent.