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Thomas Burns
(nerdboy52) - MLife

Locale: "Alas, poor Yogi.I knew him well."
"Prescriptive" vs. "descriptive" on 03/31/2010 08:12:10 MDT Print View

>Now, it's in common usage so impossible to change the name.

As an English teacher, I have to agree. What we have here is a case of the old argument between "prescriptive" and "descriptive" grammarians. In the end, if a term goes into common usage, trying to expunge it is like "boltin' the barn door after the horse has already gotten out," as my sainted father used to say.

Stargazer

Tom Caldwell
(Coldspring) - F

Locale: Ozarks
Quilt of many colors on 03/31/2010 08:19:36 MDT Print View

If it was practical, I would think a synthetic quilt with a shell made of multi-colored scraps of lightweight pertex and momentum fabric would be interesting!

Lyan Jordan
(redmonk)

Locale: Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem
A quilt by any other name on 03/31/2010 08:58:32 MDT Print View

Doesn't / didn't Jardine recommend to quilt the insulation to the shell on his Ray-way kits ?

Jon Hancock
(bigjackbrass)

Locale: Northwest England
Jardine quilts on 03/31/2010 11:07:53 MDT Print View

"Doesn't / didn't Jardine recommend to quilt the insulation to the shell on his Ray-way kits ?"

Indeed, although it's a loose loop of yarn rather than directly stitching the insulation to the outer fabric, in order not to create any cold spots. Quite effective and very relaxing to do after struggling with the sewing machine to make the rest of the quilt!

"Quilt" and "duvet" for down or polyester filled bed covers are interchangeable terms here in the UK; "comforter" is virtually unknown and most people would probably assume it was something like a baby's favourite little blanket. Doesn't seem an odd word for it, given that Jardine's design is indeed quilted.

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: A quilt by any other name on 03/31/2010 13:25:17 MDT Print View

My vote is for changing the name of quilts to 'controlled fluff"

Russell Swanson
(rswanson) - F

Locale: Midatlantic
Brad Pitt on 03/31/2010 13:30:09 MDT Print View

Reading this thread I cannot stop thinking of Fight Club.

Lynn Tramper
(retropump) - F

Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna
Re: "Prescriptive" vs. "descriptive" on 03/31/2010 13:43:55 MDT Print View

"In the end, if a term goes into common usage, trying to expunge it is like "boltin' the barn door after the horse has already gotten out,""

Well, I'm not aiming to expunge it, I was more just curious about its origins. And you don't have to expunge a word for a more catchy term to catch on. I still like burrito/burro or hot dog, but would settle for Doona ;)

And I agree, Jardine's original design was indeed quilted, so the term seemed appropriate when applied to THAT item.

Anyhow, I'm a top-bag user (errrr, sleeping bag with an uninsulated bottom I mean) most of the time, so it really is academic! Although I've just received a new sleep system that is gonna be hard to name! I think it's a hoodless, zipperless, bottomless waterproof, windproof, baffled down sleeping bag that can also be used as a duvet :0

M Carrara
(utilisateur) - F
etymology on 04/13/2010 13:09:56 MDT Print View

Strange reason to finally register but here it comes

Duvet is a term of french origin and means down,
so quilt is at least etymologically closer be it as "mattress with soft lining" or "thick outer bed covering"
and retranslates correctly to couette (comforter).

I've been calling mine a quilt but no one understands what i'm talking about so it's mostly referred to as blanket or rarely comforter :P ..

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Re: "Prescriptive" vs. "descriptive" on 04/13/2010 16:27:53 MDT Print View

"I think it's a hoodless, zipperless, bottomless waterproof, windproof, baffled down sleeping bag that can also be used as a duvet"

Bob

:D

Have you ever tried to give medicine to a cat who isn't used to getting medicine? The recommended technique usually involves a "kitty burrito" (followed by bribery, usually) -- and closely resembles the way a camper tightly wrapped up on a cold night, though the campers are usually a little less fuzzy than cats. Plus their claws aren't as sharp.