Nano Tarp
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Ralph Quijano
(rquijano) - F

Locale: Central California
Nano Tarp on 03/28/2010 22:40:48 MDT Print View

OK. I just got the BPL Cuben Fiber tarp. It came with spectra cord and white plastic clips, but NO instructions! How do I use these clips? Is there an optimal way to set this up? Is there a best height off the ground etc?

Jim MacDiarmid
(jrmacd) - MLife
Re: Nano Tarp on 03/29/2010 06:09:30 MDT Print View

That's really odd. I just looked at my guyline/tensioners and they didn't have instructions included either. I already have the BPL Nano line kit, which came with instructions, and if I can find them, I'll scan them in later and post. Until then, look at this pictures of the tensioners in action, and maybe you can figure it out from there..

James Wyrwicki
(jim1233988) - MLife
guylines on 03/29/2010 11:05:27 MDT Print View

this picture helped me figure it out. http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/shop/popup_image.php?pID=93&image=2

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: guylines Locks on 03/29/2010 11:22:41 MDT Print View

It is important to get the direction correct on the knotted end. Both ways will cam and lock the line, but the MLD image below shows how to get it done right.

BPL Nano Line Lock2
This is the BPL supplied image. If you do it this way, the "loop end" of the line can get buried in the lock, becoming almost impossible to extricate. Very Frustrating.



MLDMiniLineLock
This is the MLD supplied image. This is the Right way to thread and knot the line. By doing it this way you can easily get the loop back.

Try it both ways to understand what happens.

Edited by greg23 on 03/29/2010 11:38:23 MDT.

David Lutz
(davidlutz)

Locale: Bay Area
Line Locks... on 03/29/2010 11:57:14 MDT Print View

Great timing on this thread......I'll be messing around with the BPL guyline kit on my duomid later this afternoon. Nice tip on how to thread the cord through the line lock, I can see where the other way would be a problem.

My understanding is the BPL guyline I bought is too small for the MLD cord locks, but I'm not sure. That will be easy to verify.

If not, I guess I cut them off and use the BPL tensioners?

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Line Locks... on 03/29/2010 12:14:48 MDT Print View

David,
I'll suggest leaving the LineLocks attached for a while. You can run the thin cord through and knot it or tie it off, then use the MiniLocks on the other end as you intended.

After a trip or two you'll know if you want to keep the LineLocks or not.

I happen to like them. I put a permanent loop on the stake end, and just drop it over. Then I tension from the shelter end. I find them easier to operate than the Mini, especially in wet freezing weather. The weight penalty for 3mm line is worth it for me.

David Lutz
(davidlutz)

Locale: Bay Area
Line Locks... on 03/29/2010 12:17:40 MDT Print View

excellent suggestion Greg......you likely saved me from myself!

Jim MacDiarmid
(jrmacd) - MLife
Re: Re: Line Locks... on 03/30/2010 06:37:39 MDT Print View

+1 on the 3mm cord being preferable in cold, wet weather. I bought my Duo for winter camping and didn't want to cut of the linelocks for that reason. I hadn't thought of doing this:

You can run the thin cord through and knot it or tie it off, then use the MiniLocks on the other end as you intended.

in the summer when I didn't want to carry the heavier 3mm cord. Thanks.

Ralph Quijano
(rquijano) - F

Locale: Central California
line locks on 05/06/2010 13:03:42 MDT Print View

Customer Service sent instructions for use. Look at www.line-lok.com. They have a page of illustrations that is very helpful.

Jeffrey Kuchera
(frankenfeet)

Locale: Great Lakes
Who would have thought? on 05/06/2010 20:36:44 MDT Print View

Thanks Greg. This thread was very timely as I was just messing around with my Lair 1 and an MLD tarp here the last few weeks. Yeah both the BPL and the MLD methods work. After trying both methods it is clear that the MLD method of threading does seem to provide "cleaner action" when operating the tensioner. Thanks for the tip.