LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK
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Tony Pearson
(tactics) - MLife

Locale: Dallas, TX
LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 03/28/2010 21:19:58 MDT Print View

Surfing around my normal bp'ing reads I came across this:

LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK

For some reason I have a ****** to try this pack out. From the gist of the post, It's not out yet. Does anyone here have any experience with this particular company? Possible to get an order in from the US?

Did a little searching but can't find if they have a website? Anyone have more info?

Trevor Shrade
(TrevMan3205) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 03/28/2010 21:46:59 MDT Print View

Check this out. Might be the same person?

Edited by TrevMan3205 on 03/28/2010 21:48:41 MDT.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 03/28/2010 21:49:07 MDT Print View

From Hendrik (via your link...)

http://laufbursche.blogspot.com/

"it opens after Easter I was told."

"a few more weeks and the blog will go live. "

Franco
Trevor
yep that is the one.

Edited by Franco on 03/28/2010 21:49:55 MDT.

John Kays
(johnk) - M

Locale: SoCal
Laufbursche Bivy on 03/28/2010 22:19:04 MDT Print View

Last spring I posted some photos of a Laufbursche Bivy made from tyvek. There was very little interest following my post which surprised me because the weight, breathability and good quality seemed to provide the perfect criterion for a protective bag designed for use with a tarp. I use it combined with any one of my several floorless shelters to protect from spash and spray from heavy rain.

The point is that based on the bivy, this pack has my attention. Anyone know the specs in cubic inches and ounces??

Edited by johnk on 03/28/2010 22:21:21 MDT.

Tony Pearson
(tactics) - MLife

Locale: Dallas, TX
Re: Laufbursche Bivy on 03/28/2010 22:56:43 MDT Print View

Thanks for the info guys. I saw the blog link. Just wondered if there was an official company site.


Pack specs:

330 g (11.6 oz)
35 liter volume which can be expanded to 49 with extension collar.
Made of black silnylon, while the bottom is made of XPAC.
Has mesh front and side pockets.

Is what I got from the link in my original post.

Hendrik Morkel
(skullmonkey) - MLife

Locale: Finland
=) on 03/29/2010 01:51:06 MDT Print View

Hej all,

nice to see interest in the huckePACK! As John I have a LAUFBURSCHE tyvek bivy, which is superb. Also I have used the LAUFBURSCHE Tanzpalast (a tarp/ shelter hybrid, going to be available in Cuben and silnylon) on a trip, and soon might have one to play around with - will keep you updated on my blog (become a Follower or subscribe to the RSS feed to stay updated) and here.

My pack is so "heavy" because I took all available options, if you take it naked (just the mesh pockets) in Size S (thus 35 l extendable to 49) it is going to be 282 g. It carries excellent, the 3D mesh shoulder straps are very comfortable, as is the hip belt.

And yes, the link which Trevor posted is the same guy. He went through many prototypes (he's been testing this pack now for two years!) and is getting ready to start his own cottage this summer. The website isn't life yet, but hopefully will be after Eastern, so stay tuned!

omar M
(kashmir) - F

Locale: New York
LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 05/05/2010 02:41:43 MDT Print View

any more news on the company or its site?

I think they were scheduled to open earlier this month online???

Benjamin Moryson
(hrXXL) - MLife

Locale: Germany
LAUFBURSCHE on 05/05/2010 05:33:29 MDT Print View

hello

i got the chance to met LAUFBURSCHE last weekend.
there is still a lots of work to do, but it could be possible that the open the doors in July or August when everything is settled down to detail

Phil Turner
(PhilT)
LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 05/05/2010 06:47:33 MDT Print View

Having fondled Hendrik's huckePACK a few days ago, I think LAUFBURSCHE really are on to a winner. I suppose gear made by a perfectionist German engineer is always going to be pretty good!

Sebastian Boenner
(racoon-on-tour)

Locale: beautiful Rhineland (Germany)
Laufbursche blog online! on 07/12/2010 00:08:35 MDT Print View

Laufbursches blog went online, yesterday.
It's still not the official website of his online-shop. But his blog will inform you about every news you can get about himself, his gear and his upcoming cottage manufactory. So look out!

http://laufbursche.blogspot.com

Edited by racoon-on-tour on 07/12/2010 00:09:28 MDT.

Sebastian Boenner
(racoon-on-tour)

Locale: beautiful Rhineland (Germany)
Laufbursche Blog online! on 07/12/2010 00:16:18 MDT Print View

Since it gone online yesterday there are already 22 followers on his blog.
There were even 3 people who subscribed to his blog before it was officially online. I think there are a lot of expectations about Laufbursches upcoming cottage manufactory.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Hmmmm... on 07/12/2010 15:08:19 MDT Print View

The waist belt on that pack looks "ethereal". Not much padding,if any.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 07/12/2010 15:26:56 MDT Print View

No frame, right? Then what is so innovative about this pack that would set it apart from the MLD, ULA, and Zpack offerings? Yes a bit lighter, but made out of less durable fabrics.

Edited by FamilyGuy on 07/12/2010 15:29:44 MDT.

Robert Cowman
(rcowman) - F

Locale: Canadian Rockies
Laufbursche huckepack on 07/12/2010 15:55:27 MDT Print View

I think the appeal is to everyone in Europe. MLD has up to 8 weeks lead time plus whatever the shipping is that's like 2 and half months. That's a lot of trips missed out on. This also proves the acceptance of the UL market in other areas. It's not just The USA. If there was a manufacture in Canada of UL I would defiantly buy from them.(I do support Integral Designs.)

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 07/12/2010 16:59:21 MDT Print View

No frame, right? Then what is so innovative about this pack that would set it apart from the MLD, ULA, and Zpack offerings? Yes a bit lighter, but made out of less durable fabrics

After all the talk here about buying only from the US and from local cottage manufacturers, it shouldn't surprise you that people in Europe want something of their own. The same movement is happening here in Japan. There is also, as Robert pointed out, the amount of time waiting, the cost of shipping, the customs fees, or even things like manufacturers being unwilling to sell overseas. For many there is also the language barrier; people want to deal with manufacturers in their own language.

Design-wise I see the Laufbursche ideas as a refinement of the ideas started in the States. The Laufbursche pack, for instance, has taken every element of former designs and done a really nice job making them lighter or easier to use.

As to less durable materials... there is a dyneema version of the pack, so I'm not sure what you mean there.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 07/12/2010 18:26:30 MDT Print View

"Design-wise I see the Laufbursche ideas as a refinement of the ideas started in the States. "

That's my point. Nothing innovative. We have hit the wall on what can be done with a frameless ruck.

William Johnson
(Steamboat_Willie)
When in Germany... on 07/12/2010 19:40:04 MDT Print View

Mr. Ure,

I think they are addressing your question. The refinement, which you agree to, is at least evident in the top closure of the bag which is something not often seen in the load/volume/weight category of similar products. This perhaps is not definitively refining, but in the sense that is is removing the unwanted larger roll-top closure alone, and aiding it with a pullover - well, it is a nice add-on. And not the only nice aspect of the bag.

The innovation would be that it is a German-made product, something very appealing to those of us not living in the center of our Universe, USA.

It can be difficult in Germany to start-up a cottage industry business venture, that sells globally, so for Laufbursche to put its/his products out, certainly by numbers alone proving a competitive product with MLD, SMD, and so forth, he allows the Europeans a lower priced alternative to products of similar quality.

This is a major innovation.

Edited by Steamboat_Willie on 07/12/2010 19:41:45 MDT.

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
"LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK" on 07/12/2010 20:21:01 MDT Print View

The waist belt on that pack looks "ethereal". Not much padding,if any.

Uhhhhh? Where have you been Eric? Why the criticism from the get go? This is BPL, where to numerous members and non-members alike, waistbelts are in many cases, optional or completely unnecessary. When you're only carrying 10 lbs. for a weekend of life on the trail then what good does a padded waistbelt serve you? For some individuals a padded waistbelt provides nothing over a thinner belt. I do believe the huckePACK has 3D spacer mesh, which is more than sufficient. I don't think LAUFBURSCHE is claiming anything "innovative", just an additional option with some nice features to offer individuals. best of luck LAUFBURSCHE.

Edited by Eugeneius on 07/12/2010 20:21:45 MDT.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 07/12/2010 21:35:47 MDT Print View

"This is a major innovation."

I am glad you think so, but I was referring to product innovation, not whether it is innovative to make an UL pack in Germany.

Interesting about the defensiveness. Some of you think it is innovative. I do not. I try to avoid group think and state my perspective. Sorry but this is a Gear Forum.

BTW, I do not live in the USA and it is not my center of the Universe. ; )

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: LAUFBURSCHE huckePACK on 07/12/2010 22:53:26 MDT Print View

Interesting about the defensiveness. Some of you think it is innovative. I do not. I try to avoid group think and state my perspective. Sorry but this is a Gear Forum.

Where did anyone say that it is particularly innovative, as in a completely new design concept? Mostly the reaction has been either that it is a well-made pack or that it is located in Europe. What's wrong with getting excited about that?