Javen

Understood, but seriously, I've had MPs with M-16s supervise me and the parts I was working on for entire 10 hour shifts. The parts were delivered with a security detail. Signing non-disclosure statements is much less dramatic.

Haha wowzer!

I'm guessing that wasn't all theater then Josh ;)

re EspiMetals, and "An account is required due to the hazardous/strategic nature of the materials we sell. Orders from individuals cannot be accepted."

Hysterical.
You can buy titanium in BULK in most forms from Titanium Joe with no more than a credit card. I know: I do. Yes, he ships to Australia.

Cheers

And they had NO sense of humor.

Richard, have you considered incorporating your potstand and windscreen together to save on weight, pieces, and complexity? I have an alcohol stove and use a windscreen/potstand combo with mine and it works great. Here is what I made: http://mysite.verizon.net/k3ct/Stoves/TurboCatII.htm

The potstand/windscreen is near the bottom

Joshua

Yeah, I'm considering that now. Probably going to experiment with aluminum flashing and coat hanger wire first. Thanks for the link.

It is great for me. I just built another alcohol stove and windscreen since I got a different pot and it all fits together wonderfully. I have a Trek 700 titanium cup and the windscreen, stove, fuel, and paperclip all fit inside my cup wonderfully! The only thing that I can't fit in is the coathanger rods. It's a sweet, light, small setup.

Joshua

You might want to play with an alternative closure fastening, to save using the paper clip. And that is to use slot and tab joints at top and bottom.

Cut a slot in the top of one end, and a mating tab at the top of the other end, and reverse the slot and tab cutting at the base.

Fold the upper tab out, and the lower tab in (fold them over a double-thickness piece of scrap), and then slide the two slots into the mating tabs to make the joint. You never need to unfold or re-fold the tabs again. The natural spring of the foil holds the joint closed.

A somewhat blurry photo of the idea can be found here (although the tab folding is in the wrong direction, so the upper tab is in the heat):

Edited by captain_paranoia on 03/12/2010 10:32:03 MST.

I got some of the ti-goat foil. It is very sturdy and could definitely hold a pot in a circular configuration.

This is a windscreen setup I have been experimenting with. I only really need wind protection between the top of the stove and the pot, but I made it a little taller for now. weighs just under an oz. with the stainless steel pins.

Edited by cadyak on 03/12/2010 15:52:02 MST.

I decided to see how much weight I would save by replacing my aluminum flashing windscreen with a titanium one. But I'm a real doofus when it comes to math. Hell, I'm a doofus when it comes to arithmatic. So I need someone to check me on this, please.

I considered Titanium Goat's .005" thick, 1.85 oz, 11.75" x 12" piece. That size equals 141 square inches 11.75 x 12), which is .01312 oz per square inch (1.85/141).

My aluminum screen is 21.5" x 4.25" and weighs 1.2 oz. That's 91.375 square inches and
.01313 oz per square inch.

The difference is .00001 oz per square inch. If I make a titanium duplicate of my curent screen I will save .00091 oz. Not exactly awesome.

Have I figure this correctly?

I agree with your math

Your aluminum must be thinner than the Ti

Or your aluminum isn't as strong as the Ti, but who cares

A windscreen doesn't need very much strength - is there thinner Ti out there?

Suluk46 has .003"

" Suluk46 has .003" "

Thanks Brendan. That'd about cut the weight in half (.68) That leaves the question of whether that thickness could support a pot, using two or three Ti tent stakes run horizontally through holes in the Ti foil.
I'm considering buying one of Sulak46's 6" screens. It seems to be made of the .003" stuff he sells (given it's 6" in diameter and 4.5 inches high). I emailed him about this and he seems to think that, depending on the size of the pot, it would work.
The pot's a Snowpeak Trek 900 pot-lid/fry pan. Weighs 6.2 oz and holds 30 ounces max, which in water weighs 28.776 ounces, for a total max weight of 2.2 lbs.
Anyone know if this could work with the .003"?
Thanks.

I made a pot support/windscreen combo from Steve's Ti foil for my Heine pot using 2 6" vargo Ti stakes and the whole thing is pretty darn stable. Go for it. Once you put it all together you'll see what I mean.

Agreed. I made pretty much exactly what you describe (caldera like cone with holes for stakes to support Fosters can) and have used it for probably 50 nights with no problems.

Thanks folks.