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Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 01:15:03 MST Print View

My wife and I are heading out on the Arizona Trail starting the first weekend in March. Here is where our current gear list stands:

Item Description BP BW JP JW
Brady’s Clothing
Balaclava Smart Wool Merino Wool 1.76
Bill hat REI running cap 2.05
Insulated Jacket Thru Hiker Whitney Kit 10
Waterproof Jacket REI Black 12
Thermal Shirt Smart Wool Top LS 1/4 zip 6
Pants REI Black 10
Thermal Pants Smart Wool Bottoms 5.5
Socks Wigwam Cool-Lite Hiker 2.5
Socks REI Merino Wool Liner Socks 1
Shoes Salomon Goretex 10.0 23
Watch Timex Ironman Watch 1.2
Gloves wool gloves 2
Total Worn (lbs.) 2.703125
Total Packed (lbs.) 2.11

Jen’s Clothing
Sunglasses Whatever you want to bring 1.5
Fleece Hat Black Fleece Cap 2.57
Bill hat OR White Hat 1.8
Bandana Generic Blue 1.2
Balaclava Smart Wool Merino Wool 1.76
Swim suit Top 2
Cotton Underwear 0.88
Down Parka REI Green w/ stain S 17.39
Waterproof Jacket REI Purple 13.55
Thermal Shirt Smart Wool Top Purple 4.62
Convertible Pants The North Face 10
Thermal Pants Under Armor Pants 6.17
Socks REI Merino Wool Socks 3.84
Socks Argoyle Socks 1.73
Socks Ankle Socks 1.34
Shoes 18
Shirt Synth. Short Sleeve 5.47
Gloves wool gloves 2.12
Layering Top Columbia White 1/4 zip 4.94
Hiking Poles REI Peak ULS 12
Total Worn (lbs.) 3.12625
Total Packed (lbs.) 3.62

Pack & Sleep Gear
Backpack GoLight Jam2 17.4
Backpack REI UL45 Med 36
Vapor Barrier Contractor Trash Bag
Vapor Barrier Contractor Trash Bag
Underquilt Custom 20
Sleeping Bag Sierra Designs +30 Lid 27
Underquilt Storm Crow’s Crowsnest 18
Sleeping Bag REI Kilo Plus +0 44
Hammock MYOG 12
Hammock MYOG 12
Tarp MacCat Delux 16.12
Sleeping Pad Blue Closed Cell Foam 1/2 6
Sleeping Pad Blue Closed Cell Foam 1/2 6
Brady’s Pack (lbs.) 6.1575
Jen’s Pack (lbs.) 7.25

Kitchen Gear
Soap Dr. Bronners 0.4
Spork Lexan spoon 0.28
Spork Lexan spoon 0.6
Fuel lil nipper full of yellow heat 9.28
Pot & Lid Heineken can w/ foil lid 1
Aluminum Mug 1.76
Aluminum Mug 1.76
Alcohol Stove Red bull can stove 0.25
Seasoning M&M Container w/ straws 0.6
Lighter Mini bic lighter 0.39
Lighter Mini bic lighter 0.39
Brady’s Pack (lbs.) 0.8725
Jen’s Pack (lbs.) 0.171875

Electronics
iPhone 3g GPS Camera Journal 5.61
iphone 3g GPS Journal Entertainment 4.69
Phone Charger 6Ah battery 9.6
Phone Charger 6Ah battery 9.6
Camera Cannon A590is 8
Headlamp Garrity 1W 8 LED 6.42
Headlamp Photon Freedom 0.49
Brady’s Pack (lbs.) 0.950625
Jen’s Pack (lbs.) 0.893125

Miscellaneous Gear
Analog Informer keychain compass/thermo. 0.32
Analog Informer keychain compass/thermo. 0.32
Fishing Kit Tenkara Iwana & flies 5.68
Hunting Kit NAA mini revolver 6.5
Stuff Sack Walmart Large “green” sack 1.31
Stuff Sack Walmart Large “green” sack 1.31
Venom Extractor Sawyer Extractor Kit 3.67
Towel MSR PackTowel UL - M 2
Knife Gerber UL LST 1.2
Knife Sharpener Pocket Crock Stick 0.56
Mosquito Hood BPL UL Headnet 0.3
Mosquito Hood BPL UL Headnet 0.3
Umbrella Birdiepal Swing Liteflex - Red 8
Umbrella Birdiepal Swing Liteflex - Silver 8
Water Filter MYOG Gravity Filter 5.47
Water Carriers Platypus 2+ 1.2
Drinking Tube Platypus 1.7
Water Carriers Platypus 2+ 1.2
Water Carriers 4L Platy 2.65
Drinking Tube Platypus 1.7
First Aid Kit Adventure Med Kits .5 4.48
Bug Repellant DEET in a 1 oz. container 1.4
Suntan Lotion SPF in a 1 oz. container 1.4
Bad Eye Kit Glasses, Contacts, Visine, drops 6.56
Toothbrush Sawed off handle 0.18
Toothbrush Sawed off handle 0.42
Toothpaste Travel Size 0.88
Water Treatment (6) Aqua Mira tablets 0.11
Toilet Freshette 1.23
Pills Pain pills 0.42
Playing Cards Mini pack 1.62
Feminine Products 3.35
Hairbrush compact 1.52
Deoderant 2.43
Carabiner for jens camera 0.5
Toilet Paper 10 sheets/day 1
Potty trowel sawed off EZEE trowel 1.5
Brady’s Pack (lbs.) 2.208125
Jen’s Pack (lbs.) 1.90125


Totals 13.1925 2.778125 15.148125 3.12625

Is there a better way to post this information?

one direct question for you all:
1. If my thruhiker whitney kit jacket has a momentum 90 shell, do I still need to bring a rain/wind jacket? We also hike with umbrellas (for both the rain and sun)

And of course, motivate/enlighten/inspire me even more, you're all very very very good at it!

Jim MacDiarmid
(jrmacd) - MLife
Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 07:35:18 MST Print View

I'm think about a week or so hike in AZ in September or October, so I'm looking at your list with interest.

Ron has pretty good information regarding the water resistance of Momentum fabric here. It sounds like with umbrellas, and assuming you aren't expecting prolonged rain, you might be able to get away with no rain jacket. However, since it is your only insulating layer, and down becomes useless when wet, it would be a risk. Depends on how cold you are expecting it to get. If you are bringing a down jacket, I assume it will get cold enough to use it.

If you could provide expected high/low temps and precip expectations for those of us not familiar with AZ weather in March, it would help evaluation.

As far as posting format, if you have a gmail account, then google docs is a nice way to publicly share a spreadsheet. You can publish is as a web page and then share the link like this.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Posting! on 02/13/2010 08:05:55 MST Print View

Brady,
"Is there a better way to post this information?"

There are at least two ways to post gear lists. One is to upload a spreadsheet pdf to you Profile, which you can get to via the 'Change My Profile' link below Community at the top right of each page.

To embed a spreadsheet in a thread look Here.

The advantage of the second option is that it keeps the thread relevant to a specific list. If you reference a Profile Gear List that later changes the thread can be a little confusing.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
full AZT on 02/13/2010 09:35:41 MST Print View

Brady, are ya'll headed out for a full AZT? Northbound, obviously. The following comments are assuming you are.

Rain is unlikely, but if it happens it will probably be rather strong and sustained.

Do you have enough water capacity for the Oracle-Gila stretch?

When/where do you think you'll need headnets?

A gun for hunting? Really? Not much is legally in season right now.

Places for hanging two hammocks will be hard to find until you get up on Lemmon.

I'd want shorts.


Enjoy the adventure!

Edited by DaveC on 02/13/2010 09:37:53 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 09:58:07 MST Print View

Ditch that extractor/snake bite kit. Gonna do more harm than good. No substitute for antivenom. Oh yeah, a gun, really!?

Edited by kthompson on 02/13/2010 10:00:03 MST.

Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Reposting the list on 02/13/2010 10:01:34 MST Print View

Arizona Trail Gear List

Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Hike Details on 02/13/2010 10:07:33 MST Print View

Hike Description:
Arizona Trail Thru Hike
Distance: ~800 miles
Date: March 7th - April __
Direction: Northbound
Expected lows: High 20s low 30s
Expected highs: Possibly into the upper 90s (gotta love the temp range in AZ)

Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Re: full AZT on 02/13/2010 10:50:46 MST Print View

Dave,
Yeah, we use 2-2.5 liters per day each, so our 2.5 liter platys and the 4 liter platy bag along with a couple 1 liter bottles picked up in Oracle will be enough for that stretch (we're planning on getting from Oracle to the Gila in 3 days).

There is actually quite a lot of small game/ reptiles in season and having a "weapon" along has put a few people at ease about our journey.

We can always setup the hammocks in a bunk bed configuration or double up in one if necessary. I know we will spend some nights on the ground, but the luxury of a hammock is worth the weight penalty for us on this long trek.

Good call on the shorts, I'm actually adding two pairs, one smartwool microweight boxer briefs, and also a pair of nylon running shorts (I'll wear these while our clothes wash in trail towns).

Thanks Dave for all your comments!

Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 10:56:58 MST Print View

The snakebite kit is a concession I'm more than willing to make to have my wife join me on this journey.

"Oh yeah, a gun, really!?"
Good point, now I wont take it :)
Yeah, there's small game that will be in season, and if I get a rabbit or squirrel or just a chance to take a shot, it will be worth it for me. I grew up hunt/hiking so its a natural combo in my opinion.

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 11:18:06 MST Print View

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Edited by annapurna on 05/02/2010 06:19:57 MDT.

te - wa
(mikeinfhaz) - F

Locale: Phoenix
Re: Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 11:21:45 MST Print View

you're a hanger, and hangers dont find it difficult to hang. northbound, In the Huachucas, you can hang. just past Canelo hills you almost immediately re-enter sky island country. The Rincons... oh baby! Then the Santa Ritas! White Canyon! Superstitions, Mazatzals, then come the big trees(as you know, its the largest ponderosa forest in the world.. a far cry from "all sand").
i would say you will hang 8 out of 10 nights. you hangers are an ingenious bunch :)

i have hung off a trail sign and cowboy fence. last weekend i hung inside Ballantine cabin.. hangers know this: you dont always need perfect trees. ya just have to be creative. have fun!

Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Re: Re: Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 11:30:33 MST Print View

Anna - Yes, I wouldn't waste an animals life. I am sure I will thoroughly enjoy any fresh meat available on the trail.

Mike - Couldn't have said it better myself! I'll complain on HF how many "sleepless" nights we end up having to take.

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 11:39:25 MST Print View

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Edited by annapurna on 05/02/2010 06:19:23 MDT.

Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 11:44:15 MST Print View

How big of a knife do you recommend for preparing small game and fish?

Oops, forgot to put my cooking grill (1/2 a cooling rack from the kitchen) on my list. I can use that or cube up the meat and boil it in the heine pot in a fire (alchy would consume too much fuel) and then there's always "on a stick" method.

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Arizona Trail Gear List - Leaving in 3 weeks! on 02/13/2010 11:48:43 MST Print View

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Edited by annapurna on 05/02/2010 06:18:36 MDT.

Daniel Bell
(danbell)

Locale: US Southwest
Arizona Trail Gear List -snakebite kit on 02/13/2010 21:48:48 MST Print View

Hi Brady,
I second ditching the snakebite kit. There really is no evidence that says it does anything useful for a snakebite. Most members of the Tucson Herp Society, including myself, don't carry one. It provides a false sense of security. The ONLY first aid is to get thee to a hospital somehow.

On the upside, it is statistically very rare for hikers to get tagged in the backcountry. I guess hikers are generally pretty careful about where they step. It's that classic mix of testosterone, alcohol and venom (i.e. young drunk males messing around with snakes) that cause all the problems.

Here's a pic I took of a Black-tail rattlesnake from the Rincon Mountains, pretty close to the AZT in fact :)C. mollosus, Rincon Mtns

R Alsborg
(FastWalker) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Re: Arizona Trail Gear List -snakebite kit on 02/13/2010 22:00:25 MST Print View

Daniel that snake looks pretty pi$$ed-off hope you were using a telephoto lens for that shot!

Brady Fulton
(bfulton) - F

Locale: Phoenix Arizona
Re: Arizona Trail Gear List -snakebite kit on 02/13/2010 22:09:49 MST Print View

Thanks for the advice. I know the odds are against us ever using it, but it makes my wife feel better and that is worth a lot.

Does anyone skip the wind shirt when their insulating layer is M90?

Daniel Bell
(danbell)

Locale: US Southwest
Re: Re: Arizona Trail Gear List -snakebite kit on 02/13/2010 22:51:29 MST Print View

Roger,
Yeah, that shot was pre-digital. Olympus OM-G, Vivitar 135mm close-focusing lens, tripod, K64 slide film.

I should also mention that I have 11 seasons of field work under my belt working with reptiles and amphibians. I knew what I was doing and didn't take any uneccesary risk just to get the shot. Well, maybe a little, but c'mon, it's a cool shot....
Dan

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
shells on 02/14/2010 11:06:05 MST Print View

I would not skip the windshirt. I reckon you'll have plenty of days when it's too windy for just a base layer, yet 40-50 degrees and far too warm for a puffy.

For that time of year in AZ, and with an umbrella, I might think about leaving the hard shell at home, and bringing the wind shirt. Depends on how comfy you are with the thought of getting wet. And there's always the chance that you'll top the Mogollon just in time to get hit with a nice wet snowstorm, like we had up near Flag in Memorial day of '08. Odds are, a waterproof jacket will be dead weight for 99.8% of the trip.

BTW, seems like Goretex shoes will just increase sweat and thus blisters. I gave them up years ago, but I'm an odd one.

Be sure to report back with many photos and words!!