Caldera Inferno, Mug Size?
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Christoph Blank
(chbla) - F

Locale: Austria
Caldera Inferno, Mug Size? on 02/04/2010 09:18:22 MST Print View

Hey there,

I've got an optimus nova which I'm using most of the time if we are two people.

However, since it's quite heavy, I wanted to get something new, lightweight to use for myself.

I first wanted to buy the caldera cone, but then stumbled across the new inferno, which looks quite nice - especially since it is so flexible and modular.

The question for me is, since I never had a stove at this size - what kind of mug to choose, especially regarding the size.

I thought about the snowpeak 600, but I'm not sure if it is large enough and also what the other manufacturers have to offer.
I would be very thankful if anyone could share their experience, and suggest a lightweight mug (with lid)for solo use...

Thanks in advance,
Christoph

Juston Taul
(Junction)

Locale: Atlanta, GA
Solo/Group on 02/04/2010 09:33:37 MST Print View

I too am the owner of the Ti-Tri Caldera Cone w/ Inferno. I use the esbit/gramcracker normally with the inferno as a backup.

I think it really "boils" down to whether you are going solo or have others to tend to. I usually have one or two others that depend on me for boiled water. I don't mind, but it required a larger pot to get the job done more efficiently. I went with the SP 900.

If I were to do it all over again with a solo setup in mind, I'd buy the Firelite 550 w/ handles.

Sanad Toukhly
(Red_Fox) - MLife

Locale: South Florida
Re: Caldera Inferno, Mug Size? on 02/04/2010 10:08:43 MST Print View

I also use the Ti-Tri with the Inferno. I have the UL Compact version which I use with my MLD 850 Pot. For solo trips, I think this pot is the perfect size. The UL Compact version allows for everything to store nicely inside my pot.

-Sid

Roger B
(rogerb) - MLife

Locale: Here and there
Re: Caldera Inferno, Mug Size? on 02/04/2010 10:08:50 MST Print View

I have played a lot with Calderas and infernos. See Caldera Stoves


My preference is the MLD 850 pot and Caldera, it provides plenty of volume for cooking and a cone with inferno can be packed inside the pot without the need for a caddy. However, in winter (in Scandinavia) I see the need for a full cone for non wood cooking as it ensures the water boils in a timely fuel efficient manner.

Edited by rogerb on 02/04/2010 10:10:13 MST.

Christoph Blank
(chbla) - F

Locale: Austria
pot size on 02/04/2010 12:27:20 MST Print View

Hi, and thanks a lot for your input!
I want to use it on solo tours, if we are more people I'm taking the optimus nova with me most of the time.

Right, there was the compact version too, which is definitely useful.
What I'm a bit worried about the "Caldera UL Compact Solo 1" versions, which are quite nice especially with the 850 mug is - the height. Those pots look very high, wouldn't a wider pot be preferrable? Both in terms of ease-of-use and time-to-boil ?

Rand Lindsly
(randlindsly) - MLife

Locale: Yosemite
Re: pot size on 02/04/2010 14:21:53 MST Print View

Christoph:

Everything in life is a compromise! Yes, the wider pots are easier to use in reference to cooking in, stirring, eating out of, etc. Also, in wood burning mode, when the pot is sitting up on the stakes, the wider "face" to the wood fire is better in boil time. With the pot down inside the cone in alcohol/esbit mode, tall/skinny vs wide/short doesn't make as much difference. The only reason to compromise all of that stuff is for packability. There are many here that really value the ability to shove everything inside the pot and will take the tall/skinny hit for the packability advantage and is the reason we came up with the ULC.

I just put up a comparison chart of the various Caldera products and their various feature considerations at:

http://traildesigns.com/comparison.html

...in case that helps.

Rand :-)

Christoph Blank
(chbla) - F

Locale: Austria
hmm on 02/04/2010 14:54:55 MST Print View

Hi Rand,

Thank's for the support! And yeah, the comparison is quite helpful
Of course it's a compromise.. but soo hard to decide :)

I saw the videos about the normal infernos, are there videos of the ULC versions too by any chance?

I think I will go with the ULC version but I'm unsure about the two solo versions .. :) hmmm

Edited by chbla on 02/04/2010 15:08:59 MST.

Robert Cowman
(rcowman) - F

Locale: Canadian Rockies
mug set up on 02/04/2010 15:09:09 MST Print View

I use a Firelight UL 550 with a caldera or a SP 700 (the one from the titanium solo kit because titanium lid and handles) and a compact caldera. (or even a tinfoli screen and an esbit wing stove in a pinch)
In the 700 I can fit an MSR mug inside and modified MSR mugmate plus all my cooking stuff.

Christoph Blank
(chbla) - F

Locale: Austria
pot weight on 02/04/2010 15:29:15 MST Print View

hm, I just realized that the snowpeak 700 without lid weights more than the MDL 850 with lid? Guess I read it wrong in the description.

So I think I will go with the ULC inferno and mdl 850 .. looks quite nice :)

Edited by chbla on 02/04/2010 15:32:46 MST.