>> You obviously haven't followed the Great Carbon Flame War or the various gun threads. Check 'em out and see if you still feel this way.
Have not followed any Carbon threads. Total BS anyway and a waste of time since few of us here are scientists with accurate data. We really only know what we have been told and what we have read for the most part and look where that almost got us.
I will say if you really want to dump a lot of carbon into the atmosphere just do away with electricity and let everybody cook and heat with wood fires. Poor people in Haiti dont even have any trees left.
Have seen a few of the gun threads and I can actually understand the gun threads more than a humane down thread. I personally love squeezing off a few rounds, but guns are just not for everybody.
This down thread is more akin to discussing something rediculous like more humane leather seats for my Jag or super models that wont allow photographers to use film because of the geletain, much less eat jello or a myriad of other animal byproducts that are in everything from soup to nuts.
No offense to the OP because it seems like this weighs heavy on his conscious, but everybody seems to miss the big picture, IE the forrest for the trees. Its not this sort of animal rights crap that is the real problem. The real problem is the overall planet resources vs rapid population growth --
so what really taps the overall planet resources more, natural down or synthetic insulation.
The population is roughly doubling every 50 years and if you figure half the dry land on the planet is suitable for cultivation, that means in roughly 300 years or so each person will have to be supported by roughly 1000 sf of land. That is around 32' x 32'. That is food, water, medical, sanitary, shelter etc etc
I doubt there will be any down around by then because all of the geese will have been eaten, so I am going to stock up some goose down for my GGGGGGGGGG grandkids. There certainly wont be any oil for synthetic insulation by then.
Of course my bro in law thinks we will have a plague in the not to distant future and that will take care of that problem.
So in retrospect I just dont find a humane down discussion to be a worthy topic in the grand scheme of things.
Down is natural and that is good. This ethical discussion may be relevant today for some people, but in 50-60 years it will probably mean absolutely nothing to those very same people.
Some might say well then use synthetics, but synthetics are made from a limited oil supply and takes a lot of energy to make so just more wasted resources since they break down from stuffing. Takes a hell of a lot more energy than natural down thats for sure.
Sorry for the OT rant, but these nagging small animal rights topics just drive me nuts, and yes I was a veg at one time.