SUMMER TRIP PLANS 2006
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Scott Peterson
(scottalanp) - F

Locale: Northern California
SUMMER TRIP PLANS 2006 on 04/13/2006 11:41:19 MDT Print View

So...where are you most excited to go this Summer? Any plans to do that always wanted to do trip?

While I am still a year or two away from my dream trip, I am pretty excited for a unique trip coming up this summer. It involves a Helicopter taxi (mainly to save 4 hours of car ride, but also for the views) to the northern side of the Trinity Alps and a off-piste loop (hopefully given current snow conditions) to Grizzly and Papoose lake (very nice looking lakes in the base of Cirques).

So, what about you all??? Spring fever anyone!?!

cary bertoncini
(cbert) - F

Locale: N. California
my big trip is already posted recently on 04/13/2006 11:58:25 MDT Print View

In/Out Shepherd Pass into the upper Kern for golden trout fishing in late August - monday to sunday trip. If we feel really peppy, maybe we'll climb a peak or two.

Scott Peterson
(scottalanp) - F

Locale: Northern California
Re: my big trip is already posted recently on 04/13/2006 12:13:09 MDT Print View

I saw the picture of the pass area...and the fascinating tornado. The eastern side of the Sierra's may be the most fascinating place for me. I realize it is not Colorado/Montana/Alaska/Canada at el., but I constantly fly over the region, and it is so deserted while being so close to one of the largest masses of humanity in the country!

In any event...that should be on the menu for next years BIG trip!

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
big bad trip on 04/13/2006 12:49:26 MDT Print View

Sierra High Route, some or all, this late Aug. or Sept. This is an off-trail alternative to the JMT, sees far fewer people (and bears) and a lot of variations are possible. I've done this before, in the early 90's not in best UL style, taking 3 weeks, which is fast considering the terrain. This time around, from Twin Lakes (NE Yosemite boundary country) to Lodgepole in Seqouia NP or Cedar Grove in King's Cyn. ( if I decide to do the entire route) in 2 weeks ( w/ layovers and one resupply) w/ a UL load yet to be determined.

Scott-- I've done Grizzly to Papoose. Heli? Hope you still have to do the infamous 1600 ft climb in a mi. followed by the 1600 drop to Grizzly Ck. on the China Spr. Trail ( that will grow hair on your chest).
Then the scramble alongside Grizzly Falls up to the Lake. Some terrific country.

Edited by kdesign on 04/13/2006 12:57:36 MDT.

jonathan hauptman
(6hauptman6)

Locale: A white padded room in crazy town.
spring fever on 04/13/2006 12:58:18 MDT Print View

I have spring fever bad man! I am starting a thru hike of the Appalachian Trail on May 13th. Can not wait!

Ryan Faulkner
(ryanf) - F

Locale: Mid atlantic, No. Cal
JMT on 04/13/2006 13:47:23 MDT Print View

Dont know if I will get to it, I am busy this summer. but I hope to be able to do the jhon muir. My dad bought some guide books. the only problem is if we will be free.

any one know of the temps over there in july and august. I hope we will escape some heat by gaining elevation. one reason I hate summer backpacking in the east, is all the heat.

thanks.

cary bertoncini
(cbert) - F

Locale: N. California
ryan - JMT summer temps on 04/13/2006 13:57:02 MDT Print View

all over the board, but most of the high country is a good deal cooler, although above treeline the sun is very, very intense. often windy, sometimes super, tear up the tents kinda windy. can be cold when that wind is blowing.

every now and then a cold snap can surprise - were up near Kearsarge area one time in early August and condensation froze into sheets of ice on the top of the tent - morning sun caused it to rain inside the tent. my guess is low to mid twenties. during the day can be shortsleeves and take a dip type weather though - maybe 80s?

especially in july you have the monsoon pattern in effect w/ dramatic thunderstorms daily fairly often - some areas get hit more/worse than others. lightning and hail pretty common afternoons. but some trips have been without any - just gotta go with the luck of the timing each year.

Scott Peterson
(scottalanp) - F

Locale: Northern California
Summer Camp 06 recap on 04/13/2006 13:57:02 MDT Print View

The heat in the Sierra's is way different than most other parts of the US. We don't have the oppressing humidity. The heat in the Sierr's is just your ordinary high exposure UV. Temp's can get pretty high in certain locations during late afternoon...and exposed granite is like snow with the reflective qualities...but a hat/sunscreen/wicking tshirt and the occasional stop in the shade is more than enough to stay comfortable.

1. Upper Kern
2. Ambitious thru-hike thru several national forests ala JMT but better!
3. Trinity Alps free-fall
4. AT thru-hike
5. More Sierra's

So far pretty good!
And as far as the helicopter ride...it nets only a ride to the outer boundry of the wilderness area...close to the China Gulch Trail head. Much up hill work will be put in. But, in my book, it's no fun if you don't experience a little hell.

I may need to ask questions of the experienced Trinity Alps folks.

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
summer trips on 04/13/2006 15:45:53 MDT Print View

Whitney Portal and over Kearsarge to Onion Valley in August!!! First time up Whitney and first time going along the JMT over Forrester. Will be fun.

Also maybe a solo on the Rae Lakes Loop, and the first multi day trip with my wife (Tuolumne Meadows to Yosemite Valley).

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
JMT in July/Aug. on 04/13/2006 16:19:16 MDT Print View

Ryan, there's going to be a lot of snow ( and ice) in July on the higher stretches of the JMT--especially this year. This can pose a formidible obstacle on the N. sides of the high passes. Aug. may be better, particularly if you want to travel lighter w/ no ice axe and possibly crampons.
As Cary said, temps. can be all over at this time of the year--- down to 20's possible, most probably higher.
High temps. on the lower stretches can get into the 80's and even more-- more likely anywhere from 50's to 70's .
These are high mtn's subject to all sorts of variations off the norm--- blizzards in Aug. as well as multi-day rainstorms from remnants of tropical storms have been known to happen.

Edited by kdesign on 04/13/2006 16:23:03 MDT.

Ryan Faulkner
(ryanf) - F

Locale: Mid atlantic, No. Cal
Re: JMT in July/Aug. on 04/13/2006 17:27:23 MDT Print View

Wow, I was not expecting this extreme of weather in the middle of the summer.

so I should expect and plan for extremely rainy weather with night lows around 25.

depending on when, mabey even some mountaineering gear

well, I like a challenge.

do you think an ID sil poncho or SMD gatewood cape could survive this extreme weather?

Edited by ryanf on 04/13/2006 17:29:50 MDT.

cary bertoncini
(cbert) - F

Locale: N. California
JMT in july/aug on 04/13/2006 17:37:44 MDT Print View

I hope the gatewood at least will - my hiking partner will be using his.

i haven't decided yet what my shelter will be - i may also get a gatewood.

I think the trick will be site selection - if it's howling wind, best to find a big boulder or maybe a grove of foxtails or something to nestle behind. i've seen tents get shredded up there.

the 25 degree lows are not real common, but could happen. on a week long trip, I always plan to be able to handle that kind of temp at night.

Bernard Shaw
(be_here_now@earthlink.net) - F

Locale: Upstate New York
Wati till August on 04/13/2006 17:56:27 MDT Print View

If you wish to avoid insects, maximize a long lasting high pressure system and have most if not all snow gone off high passes simply wait till August thru second week in September. I have guided there for many years and this is the least problematic zone.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
August on 04/13/2006 18:04:37 MDT Print View

As Bernard says. Ryan, you most probably won't have anything more than afternoon T-storms. I simply said that extreme weather has been known to happen at anytime in the Sierra. Temp. ranges are as I've said.