Who is your daddy and what does he do?
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George Matthews
(gmatthews) - MLife
Re: Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 19:20:39 MST Print View

Congrats Ben!

Quite an impressive example of hard work and saving. I believe your blissfully singleness helped you reach your goals. I hope all the young hikers reading your story find inspiration in it. Work hard + Save alot + Ultralight family = Retire very early.

Or else...

If married, then that would have meant only socking away 25 cents per buck.

Then a kid, -.08 and a second, -.08, and out of state tuitions, -.04.

Let's see that'd have been only 5 cents on $1 earned socking away.

You'd then be looking at working hard and saving for 30 years and thinking, well, maybe retiring around 60.

Ben's Way is a better path to hike life. Light and simple.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 19:35:38 MST Print View

Thanks, George. My way benefits not just myself but the whole world too -- if everyone follows my example. Consumption will go way down, savings way up -- and solves the whole population problem too -- although maybe a little too well...

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 19:37:44 MST Print View

I'm jealous Ben. I was so, so close to retiring last year, and I missed again. I should have been saving, instead of working to make the big score. Anyway........I started working last Monday as a consulting engineer. Too bad it's 500 miles from home.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 19:42:15 MST Print View

Pffft! Having a family doesn't have to be expensive nor need get in the way of having a life.

I'd not change having kids for being able to not work. The trade off is just not there - for us.

Yet, as long as one lives within their means and socks away a lot they can still retire within a good range of years.

See Ben, you could have had a family...if you started in your early 20's! One child and still lived frugally. ;-)

The problem is that many with families buy big expensive houses and then go into further debt putting their kids through college later.....you just have to avoid that. And hey, 47 is young for men. You still have time to have a Mini Me. Lol!

PS: And I might add that getting married and having kids does not mean a person puts less into savings. That only happens if one spends money. For example: we are having child #2. Am I building a nursery for him? No....babies don't "need" it. I will spend a couple hundred on things and call it a day. Same when we got married, we didn't go into debt. We spent around $1,500 for everything and still had quite the party for our friends. One can have a good life, a family and a wife and still live within budget. If everyone is on the same page!

Edited by sarbar on 01/14/2010 19:45:20 MST.

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 19:57:59 MST Print View

Wow, I see a lot of you are retired or on the verge... I, on the other hand, am trying to break into the workforce. I just graduated with a B.S. and haven't been able to nail down a job in my field yet. Maybe if I had spent as much time trying for an internship as I did hiking and building/maintaining trail I would have an easier time getting a job :).

So right now I'm working a couple of part time jobs while my fiancee decides if she is going to do grad school or not.

Adam

Joe Geib
(joegeib) - F

Locale: Delaware & Lehigh Valleys
I'll chime in on 01/14/2010 20:18:25 MST Print View

I'm in the Municipal Management field. I am currently a Borough Manager for a really small borough here in PA. So small in fact that I do it all alone. That includes being Administrator, Treasurer, Grant Writer, Public Works (yes, plowing), and everything else in between.

I like to say I'm a 1-Man Show running a 3-Ring Circus.

George Matthews
(gmatthews) - MLife
Re: Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 20:24:09 MST Print View

Hi Sarah,

As you said in your great cook book 'Freezer Bag Cooking':

"Do not take what you do not like to eat."

That's a good philosophy to apply to our whole life.

I started my family very early (22) and we lived very simply at first. Quite poor but quite simple. It's ironic now that our kids are grown up that I find that I'm seeking the simple again. Not a return to poor, but to frugal enough to sustain a comfortable - yet simple - lifestyle. We're just about there.

When is your #2 due?

George Matthews
(gmatthews) - MLife
Re: Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 20:31:09 MST Print View

Hi Adam,

Have you checked:

www.usajobs.gov

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 20:35:05 MST Print View

The little one will probably come in early March. No set date as he is slated to be an early one like Ford was. So somewhere in the next 7 to 10 weeks. And no I am not ready ;-P

We have worked hard so that we can have family and as well at least have our house paid off by our early 40's (not far off!) We carry very little debt.

It isn't always easy and sometimes our eyes do wander and we covet those who go on 2 week vacations to exotic locales....but then we think about how much interest and years in debt to the mortgage company we can save instead. And go visit a NP instead ;-P

But I do agree with you on the simple life - I grew up in a rural poor life and find that maybe parts of it were not bad. The simple parts - the ones where my mom taught me how to can, to bake, to grow a garden and the simple childhood of running free. Though I am smart enough to know I'd rather not be poor again! That part I don't want. But in that circle I have my garden, I bake bread and enjoy the slower life once again.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 20:52:06 MST Print View

What's a borough?

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 21:11:11 MST Print View

Sarah:

I can't wait to see pics of your second child!

*** Coming to your computer screen SOON! ***

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 21:15:36 MST Print View

I started working last Monday as a consulting engineer. Too bad it's 500 miles from home.

Joe - I assume that means weekdays at the 'company town' and weekends at home? Or hopefully home once a month?

I did something similar for a year when I worked for Boeing in Renton (a suburban town next to Seattle). I flew up every Sunday night and flew back home every Friday evening (I live in LA). Not the easiest arrangement but I did rack up pretty impressive mileage.

I hope you are at least enjoying the work itself!

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 21:39:40 MST Print View

Going home on weekends. Just have to start getting my Southwest reservations in. Hate working out of town, but.....had to do something, and they are sure making it worth my time!

Edited by skinewmexico on 01/14/2010 21:50:33 MST.

Joseph Morrison
(sjdm4211) - F

Locale: Smokies
"Who is your daddy and what does he do?" on 01/14/2010 22:18:50 MST Print View

I am a concrete finisher. I have been doing it now for 8 years. It don't pay much but its honest, gradifying work. I actually enjoy it sometimes. Its great exercise to.

I have every weekend off and in the summer I can usually get off work in time on friday to make a three day, two night trip. In the winter time, especially this year I am off work more than at it. So long winter trips are possible, I just don't have alot of lightweight winter gear.

I can usually get off work a few times a year for longer trips I just need to schedule them far in advance. Now begging the fiancee to do so.......... that is a little more difficult. :)

Joseph

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Flying and work on 01/14/2010 22:34:57 MST Print View

Ya know Ben....I didn't know you were flying back and forth during that time! Geez! At least your narrow behind would have been comfy in those seats ;-) I remember you mentioning the Boeing thing when we hiked in Oregon.

Kirk is racking up a lot of miles these days for the company he works for. He enjoys/hates it at the same time. On one hand he gets to see new countries and be paid to be there...and then he hates being the tall man crammed into sardine can plane seats..lol! He does though like a good husband bring me home presents from said locals. And if someone doesn't bring me home a bolt of gold thread fabric from his next trip he will be in trouble ;-) But he enjoys his work. And that itself is priceless if one must work.

Denis Hazlewood
(redleader) - MLife

Locale: Luxury-Light Luke on the Llano Azul
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/14/2010 22:47:39 MST Print View

Retired since July 3, 2007. Before that I financed all of my passions working in Architecture and Civil Engineering. I loved my work and made it as creative an effort as possible. And... I got paid for spending other peoples money building cool stuff.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/15/2010 00:29:57 MST Print View

When people ask me this same question, it is hard to explain what I do, or what my company does.

I work for a global supplier of "outsourcing" solutions to automtotive manufacturers and their dealerships. And even I am unsure of what this means.

Basically I am involved in consulting/training services to auto/truck manufacturers and their dealerships. I manage a group of consultants, manage projects contacted by auto companies, build software applications, and do some instructional desgin work. My office is in Michigan.

What this really means is that I spend most of my time on a computer in my office, at home in Palm Springs; while gazing at Mt San Jacinto. I do have periods of extensive travel, as I am a "subject matter expert" in running automotive dealerships and other businesses, at least that is what I am told I can do :)

Since I telecommute, I have a large degree of control over my time, and completing projects on time is the main focus; not whether I am "on the clock." This does allow me more control of my time and opportunities to engage in outdoor activities, than most peope who work full time. And I often am able to work in my mobile office (a tent trailer) in some remote location away from people. My wife and I camp together around 100 days a year in our ten trailer, and I also get in my fair share of backpacking too.

And so now everyone still probably cannot figure out what I do. That's okay, I can't either :)

Edited by ngatel on 01/15/2010 00:32:08 MST.

Jack H.
(Found) - F

Locale: Sacramento, CA
Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/15/2010 00:46:40 MST Print View

For a while now, I've worked to finance being a hiking bum. Tomorrow is my last day working the holiday season at one of the big name outdoor stores. Next week I go back to week on/week off guiding for a wilderness therapy program. Come the thaw, I'm hiking the CDT (and cross my fingers, getting paid for it). After that? Not sure. Perhaps back to wilderness therapy, perhaps buckling down and joining the rat race?

In the last four years, I've definitely worked less than one hundred weeks.

Mark McLauchlin
(markmclauchlin) - MLife

Locale: Western Australia
Re: Re: Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/15/2010 00:47:38 MST Print View

I work for a large energy (oil and gas) company and work a 9 day fortnight, so every second weekend is a long one for me. Bonus to that is I get out a lot more than I would otherwise, negative is it means the majority are solo, although not a bad thing, just good to have a bit of company now and then.

Kathleen B
(rosierabbit) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Who is your daddy and what does he do? on 01/15/2010 10:31:18 MST Print View

Hi. My name is Kathleen and I'm a paralegal.