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"Blue" CCF vs Evazote\Volara
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Michael Ray
(topshot) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
"Blue" CCF vs Evazote\Volara on 01/11/2010 11:08:21 MST Print View

This thread suggests the R value of these is essentially the same. Is the advantage to Evazote/Volara that they are slightly lighter and more durable then? The blue stuff seems plenty durable & light to me and much cheaper. However, one downside for it is lack of packability IMHO unless you cut some reinforced slits so it can be folded like a Z-rest.

I need to get some more padding soon for my son and am trying to decide if Evazote (eg, GG Thinlight) is worth almost 4x the cost of blue from Walmart. I believe in that same thread Richard Nisley indicated the "better" blue foams will spring back after compression - I was surprised the stuff from Walmart did this.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: "Blue" CCF vs Evazote\Volara on 01/11/2010 14:20:59 MST Print View

There's not a lot of difference between them. It may be worth while trying the cheaper version (subject to basic checks!) at first, just to see.

Cheers

Michael Ray
(topshot) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Re: "Blue" CCF vs Evazote\Volara on 01/11/2010 14:26:10 MST Print View

So people are spending 3-4x on Thinlights mostly to save a few grams? I guess I also understand they are somewhat stickier, which helps bags from sliding around. Blue doesn't have this property.

Nia Schmald
(nschmald) - MLife
Re: Re: "Blue" CCF vs Evazote\Volara on 01/11/2010 16:09:09 MST Print View

Yep. A quick check comparing the Gossamer gear 3/8" and REI blue foam has the gg at 6.0 - 6.4 oz/sq yd and the blue foam at 7.2 oz/sq yd.

I don't see it as being drastically more expensive though. Walmart.com lists their 72" length 3/8" sleeping pad at $20. The slightly shorter 60" pad at gg is also $20.

Edited by nschmald on 01/11/2010 16:14:42 MST.

Michael Ray
(topshot) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Re: Re: Re: "Blue" CCF vs Evazote\Volara on 01/11/2010 18:53:44 MST Print View

> Walmart.com lists their 72" length 3/8" sleeping pad at $20

Wow. It's gone up a lot then. I bought that last June for <$6.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Re: Re: Re: "Blue" CCF vs Evazote\Volara on 01/11/2010 19:15:50 MST Print View

Walmart still has the $6 pads. Not sure what pad Nia is speaking of.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
.com on 01/11/2010 19:19:45 MST Print View

You missed Nia's ".com".

Paul Davis
(pdavis) - M

Locale: Yukon, 60N 135W
Evazote tops blue CCF for durability + low temperature use on 01/11/2010 19:56:52 MST Print View

All: I have and use both, mostly as 'sitz' pads in camp or on day hikes, also Evazote as a full-winter pad under a Thermarest LE.

All of my foamies come to me used, some with much use, and the Evazote is clearly superior over the longer haul; it is harder to rip and to crease by folding. It is also more reliable (and warmer!) below -25C where most plastic products get dicey.

Your experiences may vary!