Ways to lighten my pack further
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Nick Kaschak
(ULNick) - F
Ways to lighten my pack further on 04/04/2006 21:01:30 MDT Print View

This is my current gear list. I'm looking for more ways to lighten my load.

GVP Mariposa 14oz
Tarptent Virga 18
GVP Polypro groundcloth 1.5
Therm-a-rest Z-lite 7
Marmot Hydrogen 21
Long underwear top 6
Bottom 5
Snow Peak Pot 3.7
Snow Peak Spork .5
Snow Peak White Gas Stove w/bottle 16.5
Headlight 2.5
Golite pants 5
Sherpa Adventure Jacket 4
Plus other random gear

Thanks

Mark Larson
(mlarson) - MLife

Locale: Southeast USA
Re: Ways to lighten my pack further on 04/04/2006 21:23:21 MDT Print View

Hey Nick. Could you share what kind of seasons/ weather/ geography you'll be using this list in? It looks like a great list. The only thing that really jumps out to me is the stove--spending $1-10 to switch to an alcohol or esbit stove could save you almost a pound right off the bat.
-Mark

Douglas Frick
(Otter) - MLife

Locale: Wyoming
Re: Ways to lighten my pack further on 04/04/2006 21:29:34 MDT Print View

>Snow Peak Pot 3.7
>Snow Peak White Gas Stove w/bottle 16.5


Any particular reason for using a white gas stove? Switching to a home-made Pepsi-can alcohol stove (0.5 oz), Heineken-can pot with lid (0.7 oz), pot stand (0.7 oz), foil windscreen (0.8 oz) and water-bottle fuel bottle (1.0 oz) will save you a pound (-16.5 oz).

Edited by Otter on 04/04/2006 21:38:22 MDT.

Nick Kaschak
(ULNick) - F
Thanks on 04/05/2006 14:43:23 MDT Print View

This is mostly 3 seasons gear. I live in Southern California and backpack mostly in that area but also do some backpacking during the summer in New Hampshire. Also any suggestions on learning to make a alcohol stove.

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
list on 04/05/2006 15:32:19 MDT Print View

agreed on the stover, white gas is a tad overkill. Try an alcohol stove and see how that works for you. As for your shelter? I live in California (northern) and I use a Integral Designs Sil Tarp (a little over 7 oz.) and a BMW Bivy that is around 7-8 oz. and a GG Spinnsheet glound cloth that weighs in at 3 oz. modified. That would save you some weight too. Also what are you putting you food in? Depending on where you go? Restrictions apply. Even if counter balancing you have weight added.

Michael Freyman
(mfreyman) - MLife
Re: Thanks on 04/05/2006 15:39:29 MDT Print View

if you dont want to make your own alcohol stove, these are good options ...

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/vargo_triad_titanium_stove.html

http://www.minibulldesign.com/fs2.htm

Eric Noble
(ericnoble) - MLife

Locale: Colorado Rockies
Re: Thanks on 04/05/2006 15:44:53 MDT Print View

Check out http://zenstoves.net/ for information on making stoves.

Vick Hines
(vickrhines) - F

Locale: Central Texas
Re: Ways to lighten my pack further on 04/05/2006 16:25:08 MDT Print View

Just a few things you could save weight on - about 30 ounces:

White gas stove 16.5 / Esbit burner: 10x1.5 expanded aluminum ring, 0.5 oz.

Snow Peak Pot 3.7 / Bean can pot, 0.3 with Ziploc storage cup, 0.3

Headlight 2.5 / microlite with aligator clip on strip of elastic, 0.8

Tarptent 18 / cape/tarp, 9

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Ways to lighten my pack further on 04/05/2006 16:40:26 MDT Print View

"Plus other random gear"

DANGER Will Robinson, DANGER

Etc is such a big word for me :)

Like other's said, you've got the basics down, but the stove is heavy unless you have big group.

Now that I have discovered the little 110g gas cannisters, I'm using a Coleman F1 for overnight or family trips and alcohol for longer trips solo. For family/group trips, a gas canister stove can turn out a lot of hot water in a hurry (as can your white gas rig) and everyone can take a cannister, spreading the fuel out.

After doing the math on the weight of a Trangia alcohol burner (much heavier than the pop can goodies @ 4oz), windscreen, pot stand and a small bottle of fuel vs. the Coleman F1 and one 110g cartidge, the Coleman looked good with near equal weight and really quick boiling times. The alcohol stoves get lighter in proportion to how many days you are out because of fuel and container weight.