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Kyle Purcell
(dufus934) - F

Locale: North Texas
7.5 map question on 10/09/2009 15:18:01 MDT Print View

Most of my hiking is done in Arkansas, and that is the basis of my question. I know it would not be to practical, but how large of an area would I need for a 7.5 minute topo map of arkansas? I am not real good at navigation, but I can find where I am on a map. And I can map (with a little confidence) the trail route. Anyway, I just thought it would be cool to be able to decorate a wall of the house (size permiting)with a topo of Arkansas with all the trails I've done drawn on them. Again, thank you folks, who are smart enough to do this, for saving me the time!

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: 7.5 map question on 10/09/2009 15:24:50 MDT Print View

Two inches of paper to one mile of land.
Do the math.

Edited by greg23 on 10/09/2009 15:25:23 MDT.

Andrew Richardson
(arichardson6) - F

Locale: North East
Re: Re: 7.5 map question on 10/09/2009 15:41:59 MDT Print View

As far as I know it is roughly 2.5 inches per mile on a 7.5 minute map.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: 7.5 map question on 10/09/2009 16:16:08 MDT Print View

So I dug out a 15' map and it scaled 1:1, so I figure that a 7.5' map would scale at 2:1, which just goes to show...

Prompted by Andrew, I dug deeper and came up with a 7.5' map, and low and behold it scales to 2.625" to a mile.

So the wallpapering project will take a little less space than I thought.

Have you considered the TOPO State Series software from National Geographic. $100 I think. Print what you need.

Edited by greg23 on 10/09/2009 16:17:00 MDT.

Tohru Ohnuki
(erdferkel) - F

Locale: S. California
Re: 7.5 map question on 10/09/2009 16:20:52 MDT Print View

If i've done the math right, you would need a rather big room. At about 926 quads at about 4 sqft per quad that's 3700 sqft. Covering an 8ft wall would take about 450 feet of wall...
Arkansas maps from DRGmaps

Kyle Purcell
(dufus934) - F

Locale: North Texas
Thanks on 10/10/2009 17:32:34 MDT Print View

Thanks you guys. Doesn't sound like I (or anyone) have a wall that size. May just have to keep up with it on the computer.

bj bretzke
(lilorphanbilly) - F

Locale: Montana, MT (Stealth Mode)
RE: 7.5 map question on 10/12/2009 11:55:11 MDT Print View

I am a map freak and have done exactly what you are wanting to do several times. The only way I have found to do it is with 1:100,000 scale rather than the 1:24,000 of a 7.5. When I lived in SW MO I believe I got the maps from either the BLM or the Forest Service. Most gov't maps are 1:100,000. Depending on your location if you have a University with a Gov't Document section they replace maps every so often and the old ones are discarded. I did this at SMSU for years and got some very good maps. Don't give up, it is very cool to sit back and see the scope and magnitude of your wandering.

billy

Edited by lilorphanbilly on 10/12/2009 12:02:05 MDT.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim)

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Maps. on 10/13/2009 18:49:32 MDT Print View

Printing from a software package could be pretty pricey. The idea of using larger scale maps is probably the way to go. If you can get library or academic discards, so much the better.

If not http://store.usgs.gov has all the maps you might want. You can download pdf's of the maps for free, and then order the ones you need. You need to go to the above link, scroll down to the map locator, and then click on the map locator.

They generally carry the following scales:
1:24,000 7.5' x 7.5'
1:100,000 60' (longitude) x 30' (latitude)
1:250,000 1 degree (longitude) by 2 degrees (latitude)

I forget what the size of the paper is, but even on 1:250,000 it's going to take a lot of room to cover the whole state.

The larger maps often don't show trails.

In most areas 1:500,000 or 1:1,000,000 scale maps may be available.

HJ

EDIT:
I copied the following table from the USGS website. It shows all the map scales that they carry.



































































































































































SeriesScale1 inch represents
approximately
1 centimeter
represents
Standard quadrangle size
(latitude by longitude)
Quadrangle area
(square miles)
Puerto Rico 7.5 minute1:20,0001,667 feet200 meters7.5 by 7.5 minute71
7.5 minute1:24,0002,000 feet (exact)240 meters7.5 by 7.5 minute49 to 70
7.5 minute1:25,0002,083 feet250 meters7.5 by 7.5 minute49 to 70
7.5 by 15 minute1:25,0002,083 feet250 meters7.5 by 15 minute 98 to 140
USGS-DMA 15 minute1:50,0004,166 feet500 meters15 by 15 minute197 to 282
15 minute*1:62,5001 mile625 meters15 by 15 minute197 to 282
Alaska Maps1:63,3601 mile (exact)633.6 meters15 by 20 to 36 minute207 to 281
County Maps1:50,0004,166 feet500 metersCounty areaVaries
County Maps1:100,0001.6 miles1 kilometerCounty areaVaries
30 by 60 minute1:100,0001.6 miles1 kilometer30 by 60 minute1,568 to 2,240
30 minute*1:125,0002 miles1.25 kilometers30 by 30 minute786 to 1,124
1 degree by 2 degrees or 3 degrees1:250,0004 miles2.5 kilometers1° by 2° or 3°4,580 to 8,669
State Maps1:500,0008 miles5 kilometersState areaVaries
State Maps1:1,000,00016 miles10 kilometersState areaVaries
U.S. Sectional Maps1:2,000,00032 miles20 kilometersState groupsVaries
Antarctica Maps1:250,0004 miles2.5 kilometers1° by 3° to 15°4,089 to 8,336
Antarctica Maps1:500,0008 miles5 kilometers2° by 7.5°28,174 to 30,462


* Abandoned map series, but still available for ordering as black-and-white photographic
reproductions.

Edited by hikin_jim on 10/13/2009 18:59:36 MDT.

Hartley F
(backpackerchick) - MLife

Locale: Planet Earth
Like! on 10/13/2009 19:05:01 MDT Print View

I have NOT done this but I've heard you can do something like this relatively easily with Google Earth. I suspect you could adjust the scale to accommodate the size map you desire. Does it need to be 7.5? Then have it printed at kinkos.

I don't have the time or energy to look at this now, but check out…

http://earth.google.com/outreach/tutorial_mymaps.html

Edited by backpackerchick on 10/13/2009 19:06:47 MDT.

Jack Newton
(figster) - F

Locale: Central Arkansas
Cyclist Friends on 10/13/2009 19:25:24 MDT Print View

I have cyclist friends who have done something very similar. They've had Arkansas painted on a wall and paint which Arkansas roads they've hammered with different colors depending on year. The painting is very nice and highlights the parks and forests.

Nerdy and passionate - these folks have rode to Fayetteville from Little Rock.

Jack