Jam2 and bearikade expedition bear cannister
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N. F.
(NeezyDeezy) - F

Locale: ADKs
Jam2 and bearikade expedition bear cannister on 09/23/2009 09:11:58 MDT Print View

My only pack is a Jam2, and I can't fit the bearikade expedition bear cannister inside with all my other gear. Does anyone recommend a decent way to attach the bear cannister to the outside of the pack?

Scott Bentz
(scottbentz) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Need More Info. on 09/23/2009 10:58:46 MDT Print View

Since we don't know what your other gear is we don't know whether or not you can fit the Bearicade in your pack.

If you do attach it on the outside, the only place would be on top of the pack, not hanging off the back or from the bottom.

N. F.
(NeezyDeezy) - F

Locale: ADKs
Re: on 09/23/2009 11:20:02 MDT Print View

Thanks, I'll post my gear in a sec

N. F.
(NeezyDeezy) - F

Locale: ADKs
gear list on 09/23/2009 11:36:07 MDT Print View

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AqA9IJ39mdCDdEoweFJFT2dXWkU1MElCQWNxQmRGdEE&hl=en

The rain gear is heavy but is made of eVent and I don't have alternatives.

I'm considering leaving the booties and fleece pants at home, but I'm anticipating temperatures in the low 20's.

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re: Jam2 and bearikade expedition bear cannister on 09/23/2009 11:39:13 MDT Print View

The Jam 2 is a nice smallish pack but in my experience completely lacks the ability to strap large objects to the outside. I can't even figure out a way to accommodate a Weekender with my other gear, much less the Expedition.

Good luck,

Rick

Keith Selbo
(herman666) - F - M

Locale: Northern Virginia
go the other way on 09/23/2009 12:15:18 MDT Print View

I have an expedition and I think it would be difficult to carry outside any pack. It's made slippery on purpose. I'm not familiar with the Jam. Will the expedition fit inside it if you remove some of your gear? It may be better to carry some of your other gear in a waterproof stuff sack on top of the Jam and put the canister inside.

N. F.
(NeezyDeezy) - F

Locale: ADKs
good idea on 09/23/2009 12:26:52 MDT Print View

that's a good idea, I'll try that

I think the idea was that the empty canister is light and so wouldn't make the bag top heavy. I'll try it a few different ways.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
2009 Jam on 09/23/2009 14:28:58 MDT Print View

Not that it really helps here, but the 2009 Jam has the ability to connect the side compressions straps to each other around the back, so you can strap stuff like a rolled sleeping pad and probably a bear canister to the back.

On an older Jam, you could try strapping it to the back by tying some thin rope, strapping or bungie cord to the side compression straps.

Lucas Boyer
(jhawkwx) - MLife

Locale: 38.97˚N, 95.26˚W
hmmm.... on 09/24/2009 08:15:27 MDT Print View

how about a myog mesh stuff sack w/ some grosgrain hoop to run a strap through. might not be the most aerodynamic packing arrangement, but would ensure your can didn't run away down the mountainside....? the stuff sack could double as a pillow w/ some clothes stuffed inside.

Spruce Goose
(SpruceGoose) - F

Locale: New England
43 lbs in a Jam2 on 09/24/2009 09:03:04 MDT Print View

No matter how you configure things, 43 lbs in a Jam isn't gonna be terribly comfortable...at least it wouldn't be for me.

Personally I'd use a different pack if my load was that heavy.

The Garcia fits in my Jam with all my other gear, but I use a poncho tarp and chaps for shelter/rain gear.

Christopher Plesko
(Pivvay) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: 43 lbs in a Jam2 on 09/24/2009 09:09:21 MDT Print View

I've carried over 43lbs in a Jam2 for training (water is heavy!) and just walking for an hour or two with it is pretty much torture. No. Support. At. All.

David Neves
(davidneves) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: 43 lbs in a Jam2 (+1) on 09/24/2009 09:54:34 MDT Print View

I didn't even need 43 lbs in a Jam2. I had just shy of 35 lbs for a day and could barely touch my shoulders for a few hours. I love the backpack but not for heavy loads.

Jonathan Ryan
(Jkrew81) - F - M

Locale: White Mtns
Re: Re: 43 lbs in a Jam2 (+1) on 09/24/2009 10:36:17 MDT Print View

agreed, I did 35 in my Jam2 for one day and that was all the experience I needed for me to switch to my ULA Circuit for water heavy trips...

N. F.
(NeezyDeezy) - F

Locale: ADKs
thanks on 09/24/2009 10:54:04 MDT Print View

thanks guys, I will pursue other options and get back to you

Tohru Ohnuki
(erdferkel) - F

Locale: S. California
Can inside the Jam2 on 09/24/2009 12:19:56 MDT Print View

I can't think of a way to attach a can to the outside of a Jam without major rejigging. I've carried the Garcia and Bearvault inside the Jam with the majority of the other gear underneath in the bottom half of the main compartment and things like rain gear stuffed around the can in the top half.