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Clove hitch vs. Prussik for PCT bear bagging?
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David Drake
(DavidDrake) - F - M

Locale: North Idaho
Clove hitch vs. Prussik for PCT bear bagging? on 07/24/2009 14:20:00 MDT Print View

Okay, so after years of using the counter balance bear bag method, I just tried the PCT (practicing in my back yard). I'm sold--far easier. But the one-handed clove hitch tying is a little annoying.

So I tried attaching the twig to the main cord with a loop of thinner cord and a Prussik knot. Just pulled the food bag as far as it would go, then slid the Prussik up as far as I could.

It seemed to work great and was much less fiddly than tying a clove hitch--I prob. could have done it in the dark with gloves on easily.

My question is, because this seems like such an obvious thing to do, and because I haven't seen it mentioned before, there must be some problem with it. The extra loop of cord does add a trivial amount of weight--about 1-2 grams--and is a bit less "simple." And I was using a 5# test bag, with braided nylon main cord--would a lighter bag and/or Spectra line allow the Prussik to slip?

Help me see what's wrong with this idea.

Mike Clelland
(mikeclelland) - MLife

Locale: The Tetons (via Idaho)
simple slip knot on 07/24/2009 18:27:01 MDT Print View

The simple slip knot is easiest to tie one handed.

David Drake
(DavidDrake) - F - M

Locale: North Idaho
Re: simple slip knot on 07/24/2009 19:18:38 MDT Print View

Perfect.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Clove hitch vs. Prussik for PCT bear bagging? on 07/24/2009 23:42:00 MDT Print View

Clove hitch tying while under a load (what I do):

1. Take stick (or extra stake, chop stick, etc) in right hand, reach over head, place stick parallel and left of cord, wrap upper end of stick around cord (back to right to front), turn stick perpendicular to cord (stick now has a single loop of cord around it); now you can control load with stick in right hand using right thumb on cord

2. With left hand (thumb down), grab cord below stick, turn hand up (thumb up), place loop on left end of stick

3. Tighten your clove hitch

For removal, it's best to use something smooth like extra stake, dowel, chop stick, skewer (?sp).

Edited by jshann on 08/03/2009 11:04:19 MDT.

Keith Selbo
(herman666) - F - M

Locale: Northern Virginia
great idea on 09/10/2009 14:43:51 MDT Print View

Great idea. Much easier in the cold dark night.

To the gentleman who suggested a tool to remove the clove hitch: try just breaking the twig.