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Coming Soon - Backpacking Light Coverage of the Summer 2009 Outdoor Retailer Show (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2009)
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Addie Bedford
(addiebedford) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Coming Soon - Backpacking Light Coverage of the Summer 2009 Outdoor Retailer Show (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2009) on 07/14/2009 18:34:19 MDT Print View

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Coming Soon - Backpacking Light Coverage of the Summer 2009 Outdoor Retailer Show (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2009)

cameron eibl
(cjeibl) - F

Locale: San Diego
C.A.M.P. USA on 07/15/2009 23:18:35 MDT Print View

If you have time I would appreciate it if you could check out C.A.M.P. USA's booth.

Mark McLauchlin
(markmclauchlin) - MLife

Locale: Western Australia
2009 Outdoor Retailer Show on 07/18/2009 06:06:05 MDT Print View

Photos and lots of them please :)

Edited by markmclauchlin on 07/18/2009 06:06:54 MDT.

carlos fernandez rivas
(pitagorin) - MLife

Locale: Galicia -Spain
first photos on 07/20/2009 02:47:53 MDT Print View

If someone (as me) canĀ“t wait

Here you can find some (very good) info

http://lighthiker.wordpress.com/

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
Wow on 07/21/2009 03:06:24 MDT Print View

Wow...how is the new Vaude Scutum Ultralight so light? A doublewall, 2 person tent with aluminum poles and a 10,000mm floor for just 37oz??? Unreal....how did they save all that weight.

Ashley Brown
(ashleyb) - F
Re: Wow on 07/21/2009 03:15:31 MDT Print View

As usual, the primary ways of dropping weight are to use less fabric and/or user lighter fabric.

In this case they've used 20D fabric instead of 30D fabric, and less of it too. Single door, one vestibule. No doubt the usable space is quite limited inside.

Will be interesting to see some detailed reports from BPL on just how much space there is inside. It's nice to see some more double skin light weight tents.

[EDITED typo... I meant quite limited, not quite a bit!]

Edited by ashleyb on 07/21/2009 06:26:13 MDT.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Coming Soon - Backpacking Light Coverage of the Summer 2009 Outdoor Retailer Show (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2009) on 07/21/2009 06:14:33 MDT Print View

I keep seeing comments about the spacious inside of the Scutum, but if I read the floor chart correctly it looks that in the middle (irregular floor shape) is as narrow as the MSR CR2 (40") or even an inch or so narrower. For a double wall shelter 1 kg is very impressive for even a single but it does not look that much like a standard double to me.
Franco

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Re: Wow on 07/21/2009 12:29:51 MDT Print View

Both the MSR Carbon Reflex 2 and the Scutum use 20D fabrics, have a 10,000mm floor, single door and minimal interior room. I guess the Vaude does only have one vestibule, but the Carbon Reflex uses Carbon Fibre poles, so it's impressive the Scutum comes in so much lighter. It'll be interesting to see if it weighs as little as claimed. The Scutum is almost a pound lighter....

Ashley Brown
(ashleyb) - F
Re: Re: Re: Wow on 07/21/2009 18:05:10 MDT Print View

If it is using the same fabric weight, then there are only two places to really save weight. Firstly, use less fabric. This usually means the tent is less roomy (no surprise there). Secondly, use shorter poles. Clearly they're only using one pole here so are saving weight there. But I suspect that only accounts for half a pound at most (compared to the Reflex CF poles). The rest probably comes from less fabric / smaller dimensions.

One other possibility is that the inner fabric is lighter than noseeum mesh, but I doubt it.

carlos fernandez rivas
(pitagorin) - MLife

Locale: Galicia -Spain
more updates on 07/22/2009 00:46:10 MDT Print View

While we still waiting for backpackinlight coverage here we can find some advances to 2010 products

Here there is some updates about the European OutDoor trade show including news about petzl (headlamps) scarpa, osprey gregory an podsacs

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/

And a new update about packs here

http://lighthiker.wordpress.com/

;-)