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Ben Colbert
(rvamutt) - F
SUL Gear List on 06/16/2009 11:21:37 MDT Print View

Hey guys, I'm looking for some help on my attempt at a SUL gear list. This is what I have so far:

Golite Ion
TiGoat Bivy
Fleece Bag
E-light
Platypus 1L
Mini Bic
Prolite Thermarest
Bandana
Spork
Book

What else do I need? This is a two night, two day trip. The area I will be camping is well blazed and relitivly popular so I don't think a map and compass is neccesary. For first aid I have duct tape on my pole (blisters and small/med cuts) and a bandana. It will be no cook (obviously) and fair weather (no colder than 60 and no rain). Thanks!

P.s. I'm not including clothes I'm wearing for this list.

Ben Colbert
(rvamutt) - F
Re: SUL Gear List on 06/16/2009 11:25:31 MDT Print View

Add small bug spray and aqua mira.

Edited by rvamutt on 06/16/2009 11:26:01 MDT.

Tad Englund
(bestbuilder) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: SUL Gear List on 06/16/2009 16:32:04 MDT Print View

>What else do I need?
ALL THE HIKING ESSENTIALS (always)- Hiking essentials
This can be UL, but you should aways have it with you!
You have most of the list, but you need to complete it.

Edited by bestbuilder on 06/16/2009 16:36:23 MDT.

hunter nelson
(hunt4car) - F
"SUL Gear List" on 06/16/2009 18:22:04 MDT Print View

bring a light its ul and useful
also its soooooo useful to bring those little swiss army knives, the small ones with very little stuff but its all useful.
i dont know if you are bringing a hat but if you arnt do.
bring a trash bag they have millions of uses and weigh nothing... just bring it.
pack all of your stuff and go in to your back yard and go thru everything pretend to hike and get ready for sleep ect. see what you need and dont need, also while you do this go over what you will do if it rains or you get hurt ect.
good luck!

Nate Meinzer
(Rezniem) - F

Locale: San Francisco
Looks good on 06/16/2009 18:23:34 MDT Print View

for an overnight with 60 degree lows and no rain in a well-used area, you just need a bag, bivy, pack and food. The rest is just comfort/fun stuff.

Ben Colbert
(rvamutt) - F
Thanks Nate on 06/17/2009 05:26:07 MDT Print View

I thought I was on the wrong forum for a minute. The ten essentials? Seriously?

Nate Meinzer
(Rezniem) - F

Locale: San Francisco
Ten Essentials on 06/17/2009 08:25:48 MDT Print View

Aren't as essential when bailing is easy and am emergency is unlikely.

Are you taking a baselayer though? Even just a lightweight silk baselayer can add warmth and feel good in camp, but again, not necessary for such a short trip, and if you want to be as light as possible, leave at home.

Also, you *could* trade out the Prolite for NeoAir or a Nightlight from gossamergear.com, but I'm sure you know that already.

In my experience, things you will definitely want: some form of light, a beanie hat, a change of socks, sunscreen, and a minimalist med kit (hydrocortisone cream and advil being the most used items from this, for me).

Troy Ammons
(tammons) - F - MLife
SUL Gear List on 06/29/2009 19:58:06 MDT Print View

You might want to look through my list.

I used to think I was doing good if my pack weighed less than 40#. Funny now I actually think I am carrying more individual items. One thing I do miss is my old folding candle lantern with mica lenses. Still got it, its just not on the SUL list like everything else I have from years ago.

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/process#forumtop

Piper S.
(sbhikes) - F

Locale: Santa Barbara (Name: Diane)
Re: SUL Gear List on 06/30/2009 22:36:38 MDT Print View

I must be crazy but I hardly ever use a light. I bring it, but I tend to just do whatever has to be done in the dark.

I used to have one of those folding mica-windowed lanterns. That thing was really cool. I wonder what happened to it.

Brett .
(Brett1234) - F

Locale: CA
"SUL Gear List" on 07/01/2009 04:16:22 MDT Print View

SUL means different things to different people of course. How can you guarantee the weather will be clear and 60? And that you will not get lost (no compass), and you will not be injured (no 1st aid kit), etc..

My packing lists include categories for the 10 essentials, but the item I choose for each category varies between heavy, and UL. I literally have a bin for each category, and choose 'one item from each' when packing.

So, to answer your question, I suggest a navigation kit of compass map and maybe gps, sun protection/first aid kit, and commo (cellphone).

Troy Ammons
(tammons) - F - MLife
SUL Gear List on 07/01/2009 05:56:49 MDT Print View

I used to have one of those folding mica-windowed lanterns. That thing was really cool. I wonder what happened to it.

Funny how those thing disappear.

Last time I used mine was during a hurricane with lights out. Seems like somebody should have amde a 1oz LED lantern by now.

Peter McDonough
(crazypete) - F

Locale: Above the Divided Line
Re: SUL Gear List on 07/01/2009 08:04:46 MDT Print View

Replace the fleece with a real sleeping bag/quilt. You can make a summer quilt that will be half as heavy as the fleece.

Duct tape does not cut it as first aid.

Water purification?

If the lighter is meant to be your emergency fire starting kit, you better be pretty durned confident in yourself.

The last 3 times I've gone out without rain gear and tarp because the weatherman said clear skies, it has rained on me and my parade. I suggest a poncho tarp and 5-6 stakes. Weights about 5-6 oz, and you've taken care of the rain situation.

Drop the book and bring a star chart. It's just as enlightening, and it weights a fraction of the book's weight.

Prolite 3? Prolite4? Short? Regular?

Toothbruth and toothpaste?

Some to clean your hands before eating and after defecating? Hand sanitizer?

Derek Cox
(derekcox) - F

Locale: Southeast
Re: SUL Gear List on 07/01/2009 10:20:50 MDT Print View

1 L of water? That's it? Unless you are going to be on a stream or river the whole time and aren't purifying your water this seems like it would be too little. I typically drink 4 a day on a long hike and then use another two or so that night and in the morning while in camp (includes cooking which you arent doing though). An extra water bladder would only put you back a little over an ounce.

What foods do you eat with a spork but don't cook? I just couldnt think of any right away... Im sure there are some though.

TP? Some people dont use it I guess but you can bet it's included in my pack weight

+1 to all of the following previous comments:

the Poncho tarp or at least some sort of emergency protection if it rains

Lightweight quilt instead of fleece

better first aid (only has to be around two ounces)

some form of additional fire starter...

knife?


You can definitely make it on your trip with your list...as long as absolutely nothing unanticipated happens... with a few more ounces though you will be much more prepared for any surprises

Mike Clelland
(mikeclelland) - MLife

Locale: The Tetons (via Idaho)
SUL Gear List - without weights listed? on 07/03/2009 08:39:39 MDT Print View

Ben,

You are asking for help on a SUL list, but you aren't listing any weights.

I'm not sure how I can help. You should create a TRUE list of the items you have, with their weights before posting.

I think the list you've shown won't truly represent what you have in your pack. You'll have more.

- how do you keep your gear dry in a rain storm?

- What are your clothes? THere is no way you are going hike wearing all the clothes you sleep in.

- a spoon but no mug or bowl? What is your food?

- how do you keep your mini-bic dry?

- what's your rain gear?

Please, give us more information before you ask for help.


Mike C!

Edited by mikeclelland on 07/03/2009 08:42:41 MDT.

Noel Tavan
(akatsuki_the_devil) - MLife
UL on 07/03/2009 10:33:41 MDT Print View

Also, maybe tell us how many miles you are planning on traveling. 1L is not enough unless you have a stream nearby, in this case you need some purifying tablets of some sort.

John Fry
(m6amba) - F
SUL list.... on 07/08/2009 04:23:43 MDT Print View

dont forget guys....the E-Lite, IS a light.....lol
he just spelled it wrong
its all i carry on my trips......