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Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
TRT Gear List 09 on 05/30/2009 14:16:58 MDT Print View

TRT GEAR LIST
PACKING
Gossamer Gear Murmur 7.5oz or ULA Conduit 17 oz
Cuben Fiber stow sack( S) 0.16 oz
Cuben Fiber stow sack (M) 0.25 oz
Total 7.91 oz or 17.41 oz
SHELTER AND SLEEP SYSTEM
MLD Silnylon Poncho Pro w/ guyline 8.9oz
Titanium Goat Ptarmigan Bivy w/ full net hood 6.8 oz
BPL Ti-stakes (8) 1.8 oz
JRB No Sniveller w/ Full Length Omni-Tape Modification
22 oz
Flex Air Dual Pillow 1.17 oz
Nightlite torso 4.17 oz
Plastizote pad 2 oz
Total 46.84oz
CLOTHING CARRIED
BPL Merino Wool Bottoms 3.6oz
Smartwool Adreneline Socks (1) 2.6 oz
Patagonia Capiline Ls 6.8 oz
Golite Ether Wind Jacket 4.1 oz
TOTAL 17.1 oz
COOKING
Caldera Cone,12-10 stove, 1.4 oz
Firelite 900 ml 3.25 oz
Firelite Spork 0.4oz
TOTAL 5.05 oz
MISC GEAR
First Aid(Band Aids,Antibacterial cream, Asprin,Duct tape, Aquamira Tabs) in a Aloksak
2 oz
6 squares of tp in ziplock 0.2 oz
Sunscreen in mini balm jar 1 oz
Book of matches, esbit tabs(2), mini bic lighter in Aloksak 1.7 oz
Ul utility cord for bear bag(25') 0.2 oz
Photon Clip LED light 0.4 oz
TRT Map 0.8 oz
TOTAL 6.3 oz
CLOTHING WORN
Golite Drimove T
3.3 oz
Thorofare Pants (M) 4 oz
Smartwool Adreneline Socks 2.6 oz
Innov-8 Roclite 315 22 oz
Golite visor 2 oz
BPL Stix (125 cm) 8 oz
TOTAL 41.9 OZ
BASE PACK WEIGHT-W/ MURMUR=83.2OZ=5.2 lbs,w/ ULA CONDUIT= 92.19OZ=5.7 lbs

This is my gear list so far for my upcoming TRT hike in July. Any all responses are encouraged! See anything missing or redundant? Let me know!

Aaron

Edited by gliden2 on 06/10/2009 20:11:35 MDT.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
TRT Gear List 09 on 05/30/2009 15:25:35 MDT Print View

Hey what about bug protection? I am bringing DEET and a bug net just to be safe..The Mosquitoes should be in full swing in July....4 of us are starting July 2nd from Mt. Rose going clockwise and you? I am sorry have I already discussed this with you?

-Jay

Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
TRT Gear List on 05/30/2009 16:39:03 MDT Print View

Hey Jay,

Yeah we've chated about shelters in another thread:)! Im just gettin preped and wanted here others feedback about my gear selections.
As for bugs i'll be bringing a GG dropper bottle with DEET. That should get me thru the hike and keep them off me while im hiking+the Ptarmigan bivy should keep those buzzing bastards off me in camp.
What pack are you using on your hike? How much water do you think you'll be caring? Where are you re-supplying?
Hope to see you guys on the trail!
Later,

Aaron

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
TRT Gear List: on 05/30/2009 17:19:59 MDT Print View

Hey Aaron, Jeremy Pendrey did our logistics...We stop at Tramway, Echo Summit and Tahoe City .. For the first 4 days I will have a Golite Jam and then through Desolation Wilderness (Echo Summit) I will change out to a MLD Ark for a bit more CI. I hope to start everyday with at least 2L of water I will be carrying a large Platypus. They say H2O is few and far between on the East side... I can not wait!!!! Looking very forward to it!!! I think we can do at least 15-22 miles a day.

Edited by Creachen on 05/30/2009 17:34:14 MDT.

Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
TRT in July on 05/30/2009 18:19:28 MDT Print View

Im still up in the air between the Mumur and the Conduit. I know Tahoe had a below average snow year, so many of seasonal sources will be more sketchy. Im thinking about having a water/juice cache @ the Brockaway Summit trailhead to fuel me thru the drier eastside.
I have now decided to have a re-supply in Tahoe City. This is exactly the middle point of the hike starting from Kingsbury South. It's also a super easy to go to a grocery store real quick!:)
I also am thinking about swapping out the Marmot Atom for the BPL Pro 60 Quilt+BPl UL Balaclava in Tahoe City. Quit a bit of weight savings that i could probably afford to shed safely on this part of the trail. I could do the pack switch here as well, Wow!

Thanks

Frank Perkins
(fperkins)

Locale: North East
Re: TRT Gear List 09 on 05/30/2009 18:31:12 MDT Print View

That's what I was going to say about your Atom. It seems out of place with all your other UL gear. Do temps go below 32 in July? I'm thinking a 16oz quilt with your Montbell jacket may be warm enough for 32.

I'm assuming the heavier bag is mitigate risk though? I can understand wanting to make sure you're covering your bases for some dips in temperature. However, you may want to consider synthetic because if you get wetted out your bag and jacket are worthless.

Kevin Lutz
(mtntrailrunner) - F
Two comments. on 05/30/2009 18:32:17 MDT Print View

I did the TRT in '07.

The entire trail is in bear country. How will you store your food at night? I didn't even see line to hang food in your list. Although canisters are not required, proper food storage is important for the bear's protection.

http://www.tahoerimtrail.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134&Itemid=126

Edited by mtntrailrunner on 05/30/2009 18:46:34 MDT.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: TRT in July on 05/30/2009 18:48:54 MDT Print View

> It's also a super easy to go to a grocery store real quick!:)

Oh yes. Unlimited Resources! FOOD! Temptation!
Sometimes ... we have been known to buy yoghurt and bananas, retire outside to eat them, and then go shopping for supplies ...

Cheers

Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
TRT Comments on 05/30/2009 21:28:46 MDT Print View

Thank you everyone for your questions and advice!:)

Frank-Yeah the Atom could be a little over kill, and i am bringing the extra pad. I know i could easily get the Pro 60 quilt+Montbell UL DOwn Inner+Insulated balaclava down to the low 30's Hey Thanks!
Kevin-Yeah good point on the bears. I figure i'll bring some extra UL utility cord+an use an empty stow sack and bear bag my food and suplies high and down wind. Also im gonna try to cook before i get to camp.
Thanks:)

Edited by gliden2 on 05/30/2009 22:17:47 MDT.

Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
TRT Eating on 05/31/2009 15:57:42 MDT Print View

Roger- Have you ever eatin @ the Red Hut Cafe? There is 2 of them in Lake Tahoe, one being right on Kingsbury Grade:D!It's one of the many legendary resturants around the lake! Im getting real excited about the hike and have enjoyed all the preparation that is involved in planning a multi-day thruhike! I appreciate and enjoy hearing what BPLers have to say:) So i guess it's safe to say that my gear list is OK? Not much feedback on that yet. Come on...anything else?

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: TRT Eating on 05/31/2009 16:18:39 MDT Print View

Hi Aaron

> Have you ever eatin @ the Red Hut Cafe?

:-) No. But I live in Australia, and our big walks so far are in Europe - UK, France, Spain and Switzerland.

Cheers

Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
Re: TRT Eating on 05/31/2009 17:19:39 MDT Print View

I had originally planned on doing the hike unsupported with no re-supplies...but then i put into perspective the long days i will have on the trail (min.33 miles/day)+the likelyhood of carrying more water on the drier eastside of the lake=re-supply Tahoe City. Im really shooting for under 5 days:)so having 3 less lbs of food in my pack will be a ++! And they make it soo convenient on the TRT by having hotels, stores, resturants, post offices, within 100 yards off the trail in a few locations. I can't resist the fact that having a lighter pack+a cold ice cream or good meal is super good, but it does take away from the wilderness experience somewhat.

David T
(DaveT) - F
. on 06/01/2009 10:18:04 MDT Print View

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Edited by DaveT on 05/17/2015 22:04:41 MDT.

Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
RE:TRT Gear List 09 on 06/01/2009 16:09:03 MDT Print View

Hey Dave,

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences on the TRT:)Sorry to hear about your brused foot. It sounds like you were traveling at a good pace.
As for water, the trail starts to get drier once you leave Tahoe City. My plan is to have a cold drink cache at the Brockaway Summit Trailhead. That way i can fuel up and stay hydrated till i make up to Gray Lake, just a .5 mile of trail. September is much later than my July 5 start date, which would rule out a lot of water sourcs even on a good snow year, Right? Im still undecided on what pack to use. I would like to as light as possible, and the Murmur is 9.5 oz savings. I think it can easily handle my 5.6 lb BPW+2-3 liters of water+ 3.5 lbs food, but the Conduit will do it with ease. Should i test the Murmur's capability to carry a 15+ lb load?
I do have experience with big mile, mutiple days and have been training for the hike the last month. I hope that it will be enough to pull it off:)we'll just have to see. I'll also be trying a pair of Inov8 Roclite 315's on this hike. Great comfort, support,grip, and UL!
This trip im staying focused on completing the trail in under 5 days, so side trips will have to wait:( I lived in SLT for 5 years and have hiked Tallac, Dicks, and Ralston in the past. I look forward to going back to bag some others in the future.

On to the Gear Talk-

Yeah im anticipating some bugs. I added a GG dropper bottle of DEET, and hope to keep moving fast enough for them to be a problem. Those idiots love me too:( Yeah the bivy is just a good versitile, UL item in the sleep system that i would hate to leave out. Especially since my quilt is so light, i dont want to jeperdize any sleep that i will be needing to maintain the 33+ mile pace.
The jacket is like you said to boost my quilt. I imagine an insulated vest would do the job...but i missing this from my gear closet.
I love the idea of the poncho tarp! I already have an ID Pertex Wind Jacket that i could pair with it, and leave the Mica at home. But the Mica is brand new and UL so i want to test it on the hike. I still haven't picked up my Catbird Tarp yet, so the poncho tarp is still a good possibility! Thanks for that!
I knew the compass was un-needed! Consider it gone!
Ok so maybe 25' is cutting it a bit close. The stuff i soo light that i could add 10' more without notice. what do you do with your food? Canister?Jedi mind tricks?

The map i'll be using is the Take It Outdoors TRT edition. It sound like the one you mentioned with the elevation profile on one side-trail on the other. It's a great map and makes planning the day and knowing whats ahead easily evident! No brainer.

Thanks Again Dave for your comments! You helped me consider and re-evaluate my sleep system and other gear. That what i was looking for when i posted this thread:)

Later,
Aaron

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: RE:TRT Gear List 09 on 06/01/2009 16:27:49 MDT Print View

> I knew the compass was un-needed! Consider it gone!

Personal opinion only: I never ever travel without a compass AND a map. NEVER.

Cheers

Edited by rcaffin on 06/01/2009 16:55:02 MDT.

David T
(DaveT) - F
. on 06/01/2009 16:31:53 MDT Print View

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Edited by DaveT on 05/17/2015 22:02:16 MDT.

David T
(DaveT) - F
. on 06/01/2009 16:34:27 MDT Print View

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Edited by DaveT on 05/17/2015 22:01:43 MDT.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: TRT in July on 06/01/2009 18:19:48 MDT Print View

>> Im still up in the air between the Mumur and the Conduit.

I have both and around 15lbs it is a toss up. I just did 60 miles with the Murmur, and it handled 17lbs just fine. I was carrying 4 liters of water each morning, and consuming as I went. Towards the end of each day, my shoulders were a little bit sore, but I just cinched up the waist belt to move to load to my hips. Each morning I felt fine. The pack can handle it.

Aaron Zuniga
(gliden2) - F

Locale: Northwest
RE:TRT on 06/01/2009 21:08:02 MDT Print View

Roger- I normally always travel with a compass and map. But as others have said on this thread the trail is heavily traveled and well marked. Also the map i will be traveling with identifies places to camp, trail junctions, and water sources very nicely:) So in this situation i think i will leave the compass at home.
Hey Dave,
Yeah that cache is gonna be a good idea. The trail ascends close to 4,000 from Tahoe City TH(lowest point on trail) to Relay Peak,which is the highest point on the trail.I will definitely will be getting water at Gray Lake. That way i can drink water copiously on the way up and power through it:D Im thinking i'd rather carry the water than have to deal with going to an off trail source.
After speaking with Grant from Gossamer Gear he mentioned that my 6 lb BPW would be the max i could go in this pack. Also that the pack is not recommended for loads over 20 lbs or for hauling lots of water. Besides the 2 bottle holders on the sides of the pack i will most likely carry an additional liter inside the main pack body. Thats over 6 lbs of water+3+lbs of food+ 5.6 BPW. This could potentially stress the pack and affect the way it carries. But i figure since you said the max water you carried was 3.5 liters, than i should be fine with the lighter pack. I just got the Murmur and don't have any experience traveling with more than 2 liters. I want to travel as light as possible, but don't want to destroy a brand new pack. This is piece of SUL gear that needs be treated like SUL gear.
The Inov8's are great! it's tough to even consider another shoe anymore:)
Sleeping with food, i haven't heard of that before in the Sierra's-sounds kinda risky. No problem with da bears visiting your camp for snacks?

David T
(DaveT) - F
. on 06/01/2009 23:05:58 MDT Print View

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Edited by DaveT on 05/17/2015 22:00:36 MDT.