I like tools. Not the kind I make latte's for all week at my day job, but the kind men use. Real manly men. I find all I really need in the back country are pliers, scissors, and a small knife with a locking blade. So what's the least "gravity challenged" way to achieve all three?

Hey Rick, I was looking for pretty much the same (minus the locking blade) as you last year. I found that the tough issue on this is looking for both pliers and scissors. Typically, they don't add both to the smaller weapons of choice. I've since moved to just a razor blade but I'll be watching this thread with interest.

Oh, and get ready for a million guys wondering why you need all that...why do you? ;)

Edited by Steve_Evans on 05/12/2009 07:22:29 MDT.

Yea I woould love a Letherman squirt sized multi-tool with just pliers, scissors, and a locking blade. Seems like a no brainer right? Maybe a firestick built in, that's going past the concept, but it'd be cool. I have a box cutter style razor that they sell on this site. It's the right weight but I have big gorilla hands so...

what use is a plier?

Good question, it's a personal thing, sort of. I use pliers at work very often so they're the first tool I go for in most situations where I need grip, torque, or to grab something small. On the last trip (tue and wed in SNP) I used my pliers to unsag a zipper, pound in and pull out tent stakes, fix my trekking poles and I use the wirecutters to snip some cord and modify the compression straps on my pack. I also wus 'em for a pot holder, grip anything wet (like a wet stick I'm stripping for kindling etc), fishing a string back out of the hole on drawstring pants, pulling a hook out a fish,pulling out ticks, fixing my glasses, stuff like that. Most of those tasks could be done with different tools (like a rock) but pliers feel natural in my hand so it's a luxury item.

Rick,

Buck used to make a "mini" multi tool which is smaller & lighter than the Squirt. The tools are a bit light in construction, but not cheap - what I mean is don't expect heavy, and "indestructibility". And there's not locking blade.

But if you use them carefully the mini will last a long time. I have bought two on ebay over the years and still have both (one in new condition, tucked away). Search for them and occasionally they will pop up.

Cool, I like Buck knifes.

I've fixed several things with them

most importantly, i've fixed my fishing reel a couple times - once the day before catching the largest golden trout of my life

there's a pretty small, light, cheap multitool often sold in fishing stores that has pliers - about $6 or so & it's smaller/lighter than a squirt

I've used pliers many more times on a hike than I have a knife. Nice for gripping poles, fixing packs, etc.

Someone always has a knife. Not many carry even a small plier.

I'm thinking about taking apart my squirt and taking the extra tool out of it. Has anyone done this?

Just realized that's a great name for a UL punk band.

I'm somewhat partial to the Buck X-Tract Fin:

http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=product.detail&productID=3575

The best solution that I have come up with is to carry something like a squrt with pliers and a set of small folding sewing scissors separately.

Out of curiosity, what do you find that you need scissors for that you can't do with a blade and a cutting surface (log or whatever)?
I recently got a Gerber Clutch (chose it over the Squirt because the blade size just isn't useful on the Squirt) and while I like it for what it is, I do wish someone would make a 'magic' super-tool this size and weight that has pliers that will actually handle significant force and a blade made out of something much harder (like S30V). Maybe titanium components? I would pay for it, because every time I go to use any of the tools on my Clutch, I find myself wishing I just had my Charge TTi with me instead. Just too heavy to bring along though.

The discontinued Buck 350 is what I carry. When they discontinued them I bought two extra so I will have one the rest of my life.

I also carry small folding scissors. I do not have enough skill to cut my nails and/or hangnails with a knife.

On a week long trip I expect to use my scissors 2 to 3 times per day, the pliers 2 to 3 times per week. I can not remember the last time I used a knife.

The leatherman freestyle looks interesting (online and in ads, never seen one in person), full size blade and pliers for 4.5 oz:

http://www.leatherman.com/multi-tools/pocket-tools/freestyle-cx.aspx

I don't really need pliers unless I am fishing or skiing, so usually carry my SAK treker for hiking. I like having the saw for wood for use with the bushbuddy. I do like a locking blade. For scissors, which I don't use much either, I have a pair of tiny, light, folding scissors in my full med kit when I bring that (mostly canoe trips).

So going with pliers + full blade and carrying the scissors separately is another option.

"Out of curiosity, what do you find that you need scissors for that you can't do with a blade and a cutting surface (log or whatever)?"
Mostly grooming and cutting circles for patches (rare but can be vital)I have big monkey hands and I find scissors foe precision cutting.

http://www.riverbum.com/Dr-Slick-Scissor-Plier-55-Black-SNHC55B/



Quite lightweight and blade stays sharp. Check out your local fly fishing shop, they should have something like it.

Edited by anacrime on 05/12/2009 19:32:49 MDT.

COOL

I know this is an older thread, but technology has finally caught up with your wishes.

Behold leathermans new mini tool. Scissors, 1.6" blade (not locking), pliers, file, screwdrivers. The biggest plus in my opinion is that the pliers are spring loaded. Great for one handed tasks. Weighs 1.9 oz.

http://www.leatherman.com/products/product.asp?id=481&f=8&c=1

If you can do without the pliers, leathermans new take on the vic classic is slightly lighter than its swiss counterpart at .81 oz.

http://www.leatherman.com/products/product.asp?id=480&f=8&c=1

Edited by darvin on 04/27/2010 01:05:58 MDT.