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Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
2-person tent recommendations on 04/23/2009 11:49:27 MDT Print View

Buy some poles from these guys for your Hubba Hubba - Cheaper than getting a reflex. But if you really want to get lighter, everyone reaches a point where they ditch the Hubba Hubba (or equivalent), and tries a single wall tent. Just requires a different, but easily acquired skill set. And in the Houston area, you're gonna be miserable in whatever tent you have.

Randy Scheunemann
(orionstrategies) - MLife
2P tent suggestion on 04/27/2009 12:13:35 MDT Print View

I have the BD single wall as well as the SMD Europa. IMO the best by far is the Big Sky International Evolution 2P. It has two doors, two vestibules, is very stable in storms and (I believe) will save wieght from your current option.

(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Tarptent Scarp 2 on 04/27/2009 15:01:05 MDT Print View

What about the Tarptent Scarp 2 Henry is releasing in May? Stable, spacious highly versatile double-walled light convertible 4 season tent (with the crossed poles in winter)?

"Highly versatile, roomy, double walled, and stormworthy at 3 1/4 lbs, the Patent Pending Scarp 2 offers three or four season protection. The Scarp 2 sets up staked or free-standing with optional crossing poles.

• Available with mesh or solid wall interiors."

David Poston
(dgposton) - F

Locale: Texas / Colorado
Cloudburst 2 or Double Rainbow - please help! on 06/04/2009 10:02:21 MDT Print View

OK, I think I'm going to go with a Tarptent. What do you think about the Cloudburst 2 vs. Double Rainbow? Does anyone have actual weights on these? Can I order both and try them in my backyard and return the one I don't like?

A couple Cloudbursts just popped up on ebay, so hurry with your advice before they go away!


Skip Booth
(the1skipper) - MLife

Locale: Southeast
Re: Hubba-Hubba space vs the TT Cloudburst and Rainshadow 2 on 06/04/2009 12:29:32 MDT Print View

I completely concur with Sharon's points above. I currently own a TT Rainshadow 2 and my previous tent was a MSR Zoid 2. I experience no more condensation with the Rainshadow than previous double-wall tents. In fact, I believe I get less condensation since I wind up getting way more ventilation in my Rainshadow than I ever did with a double wall tent.

Any condensation I do get is not an issue unless you brush up against the walls and given the amount of room in the Rainshadow this is not a problem. It's cavernous inside this puppy. On a recent backpacking trip with the kids, all three of us were able to play cards sitting up in the tent with plenty of room to spare.

The only downside to all of this space is that you do spend a little more time on site selection. I've never been in a high wind situation with the tent but I suspect the tent wouldn't perform that well in winds above 20-30 mph.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - F

MSR CR2 on 06/04/2009 13:33:29 MDT Print View

I just posted a review of the Carbon Reflex 2 in the reviews section of this site. Check it out. I got mine on eBay for $355 and I'm very happy with it.

Sharon Bingham
(lithandriel) - F - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Cloudbust vs Double Rainbow on 06/04/2009 14:28:24 MDT Print View

Hey - you might want to check out this thread here:

Pretty good discussion of the differences and the pros and cons of each.

David Poston
(dgposton) - F

Locale: Texas / Colorado
Lunar Duo vs. Double Rainbow on 06/11/2009 19:01:46 MDT Print View

I keep reading good things about the Lunar Duo so I am considering giving this one a try. However, I have a few questions:

1. Should I get the ultralight or standard floor (my groundsheet is a <2 oz Polycro groundsheet by Gossamer Gear)?

2. Does the tent require seam sealing, and if so, how much weight does this add?

3. How much do the stakes weigh (I noticed you pay extra for these)?

4. How does all of this stack up against the Double Rainbow? The DR is 40 oz WITH stakes. I'm not sure about seam sealing though. That might 1-2 oz.

What do you all think?

I'm still considering the Cloudburst, but people are pushing me towards these two designs. Having a Hubba Hubba, I do like the dual vestibule design.

Ashley Brown
(ashleyb) - F
Re: Lunar Duo vs. Double Rainbow on 06/11/2009 19:25:54 MDT Print View

1. The ultralight floor is fine. It's the same fabric as used in the floor of all tarptents (eg. double rainbow).

2. Yes it does require sealing, but is much easier than sealing the double rainbow. The main panel is a single piece of fabric so it doesn't need sealing. In a pinch you can get by without sealing and you won't get wet.

3. If you use 6" eastons then they weigh 10g each. The gold 8" eastons are more like 16g (use these on the main ridge line guy outs)

4. *Lots* of previous discussion on this if you do a google search. In fact a couple of entire threads devoted to it. The weight difference is minimal. Main differences are that the lunar duo is noticeably more spacious (52" width and vertical walls) but the double rainbow can be made a bit more wind resistant with trekking poles and extra tieouts. I had the lunar duo at one stage and decided it was not sturdy enough and too airy for use in alpine (but non-snow) regions. The double rainbow seemed too confined with sloping side walls and a narrower width. Having said that, there are many, many happy users of both.

You should also check out the Tarptent Scarp 2 and the Big Sky (R)Evolution 2P. They are both roomy and pretty sturdy, and both are double-walled. Both are about 10 ounces heavier though (around 52 ounces without stakes).

Edited by ashleyb on 06/11/2009 19:28:23 MDT.

Dave -
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Up there
2-person tent recommendations on 06/11/2009 21:25:36 MDT Print View

On a recent trip where it rained for 4 days straight, a buddy used a Carbon Reflex 2. It is definitely bigger than my Rainbow but what was really nice was the double walled construction. He was watertight and yet had no condensation at all on the foot of his shelter. I was not as lucky on the condensation front (but of course, my shelter was a bit lighter). I was pretty impressed by the room v.s. weight of the MSR, given that it is from a 'mainstream' gear maker.....

(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Check out the Scarp 2 on 06/12/2009 21:58:21 MDT Print View

David, if you prefer a double wall shelter, you should really check out the Scarp 2. It's quite light without the winter cross poles, yet still very sturdy and roomy.

Dave -
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Up there
2-person tent recommendations on 06/12/2009 23:36:13 MDT Print View

EJ - where are the pics?!?!?! Didn't you just receive yours?