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Ali e
(barefootnavigator) - F

Locale: Outside
Whats your weight for the big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 14:07:14 MDT Print View

I am trying to put together my gear for the summer and have added some weight but still sifting through it. I know its not SUL but I am wondering how It stacks.


Opsprey Varient 28 (1700) ci 2.6lbs I now its heavy but I wanted a good crosover climbing pack and for the extra pound I like the comfort and durability. I can leave the lid off to save about 8 ounces.

Lafuma fastnlight 30 down 1.11 lbs doing a product review price/weight cost $99.00 new

Sea to summit poncho tarp. 12 ounces, Again heavy but durable.

Ridgerest trimmed to 16x40 6 ounces. Ive yet to find a pad that I sleep better on than this.

Total big 3+1 5lbs 3 ounces
I often go lighter than this but I was trying to get a no worries bombprood set up. I am planning quite a few off-trail trips and dont want to have to baby my gear.

So now that I have gotten fat how do I stack up? I'm not looing for lighter suggestions although they are welcome, I'm just curious how I compare to the pro's here. Ali

Edited by barefootnavigator on 04/17/2009 14:37:25 MDT.

Jim MacDiarmid
(jrmacd) - MLife
Re: Whats your weight for the big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 14:20:54 MDT Print View

(Edited to include pad)

Gossamer Gear Gorilla (2800ci) - 22.75oz
WM Summerlite - 19oz
Pad - trimmed z-lite + GG sitlight (pack back pad) - 7.25
TT Rainbow - 30

Total=79 oz 4lbs, 15 oz

I can remove the stays from the Gorilla and save another ~3.5oz if I want. I'm just not ready to go with a frameless backpack yet, but the Gorilla offers the chance to experiment with it. My shelter is my heavy item. I impulsively bought it on ebay a month ago, and have yet to use it, but am already considering ditching it for a tarp/bivy combo that could weigh half as much. I got a Oware Cattarp2 on the forums for a good price, and my first couple trips this spring, I'll probably bring it along and play around with it, having the rainbow there as my security blanket. I just want to learn site selection and pitching technique before I rely on a tarp as my only shelter.

Edited by jrmacd on 04/17/2009 14:39:52 MDT.

John Myers
(dallas) - F - MLife

Locale: North Texas
Big 3 on 04/17/2009 14:27:02 MDT Print View

I'm no pro and certainly not as light as many here, but my basic summer big 3 list is:

ZPack Blast pack 7.5 oz
Hennessey Hammock (modified) 25 oz
MLD tarp 7 oz
JRB quilt 23 oz
GG insulating pad w/silk liner 9 oz

4.5 lbs more or less.
If taking the Golite Pinnacle pack, add a pound.
If taking a tent (GG Squall Classic) instead, add another pound for the BA IAC pad.

(what does the +1 refer to?)

Ali e
(barefootnavigator) - F

Locale: Outside
"Whats your weight for the big 3+1" on 04/17/2009 14:31:00 MDT Print View

The plus one is your sleeping pad. I was curious what people use and the weights. Ali

cary bertoncini
(cbert) - F

Locale: N. California
big 3 + 1 (weekend pack) on 04/17/2009 14:40:08 MDT Print View

most of my trips are weekend trips - this is what i usually use now for those trips

Zpacks Blast 18 - (1800 cu in / 3.2 oz)

Montbell alpine downhugger #5 or Nunatak Arc Ghost (each~18oz)

BA insulated Airecore mummy (~21oz)

MLD bug bivy or bivy and/or BL Nano-0 tarp (bivies ~6.5-8.5 oz, tarp ~4.5oz). Have often brought but seldom used the tarp.

So total around 49-55 oz or so, roughly 3 - 3.5 lbs

Bob Bankhead
(wandering_bob) - MLife

Locale: Oregon, USA
Whats your weight for the big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 14:42:37 MDT Print View


Pack = SMD Traveler with hipbelt pockets and stays.............31 oz

Bag = WM Hooded Aspen (aka Sycamore) with eVent compression sack.......38 oz

Shelter: SMD Gatewood Cape/Serenity Net Tent combo.....20 oz with pegs and lines

Subtotal = 89 oz = 5.6 pounds

Pads: depends on which I take. If there's an over-abundance of sharp objects around (i.e. PCT desert sections), I leave the inflatable at home. If not, it goes.

Desert: using Ridgerest 20x72 at 14 oz;
total weight = 103 oz = 6.4 pounds

Mountains: using BA Insulated Air Core 20x72 at 24 oz;
total weight = 113 oz = 7.1 pounds

Edited by wandering_bob on 04/17/2009 14:49:08 MDT.

John Myers
(dallas) - F - MLife

Locale: North Texas
+1 on 04/17/2009 14:48:37 MDT Print View

Ah, thanks. I always considered the pad part of the sleeping system. Especially since I can't sleep without one. :)

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
Big 3 + Sleeping Pad? on 04/17/2009 14:53:43 MDT Print View

GG- SpinnTwinn Tarp: 9.2 oz
MLD- Serenity Shelter: 10 oz Total 19.2 oz

MLD- Ark Backpack: 4,200 CI Total 18 oz

Western Mountaineering Bag Total 18 oz

Total 55.2 oz
3.45 LBS

With Pad:
Prolite 4 3/4 Total 17 oz
72.2 oz
4.51 LBS

This is a lot more stimulating then talking about guns or AIG

Piper S.
(sbhikes) - F

Locale: Santa Barbara (Name: Diane)
Re: Whats your weight for the big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 15:06:03 MDT Print View

This is not a very scientific weight, but on my bathroom scale, it's 4lbs.

I have (with manufacturer weights):
- Gossamer Gear G4 size sm (16 oz) (mine weighs more because there are some pockets and things added to it)
- Golite ultra 20 quilt (16 oz)
- Z-rest, 12 panels, cut to 19 inches wide with some sticky velcro holding it together where I stupidly cut it in half (weight??)
8x10 tarp (14 oz) plus lines and stakes (weight??)

Nate Meinzer
(Rezniem) - F

Locale: San Francisco
Big Three on 04/17/2009 15:17:12 MDT Print View

BA Aircore 72" -- 21oz (no stuffsack)
SMD Gatewood Cape -- 1oz (Fuzzy math...Cape 11oz-Raingear 10oz)
REI Flash Women's -- 21 oz (+35F)
Jam2 -- 17 oz (modified)

Total -- Fuzzy Math version: 60 oz (4 lbs 4 oz)
Non-Fuzzy Math version 70 oz (4 lbs 14 oz)

MIchael MacCormac
( - F
big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 15:22:57 MDT Print View

pack:Six Moon Designs Traveller 26 oz (with stays 31)
tent: GG "the one" 17 oz plus 1 oz polycro grd cloth
bag: Montbell SS#3 23 oz
pad: Thermarest Prolite 4 short 17 oz
total 84oz= 5.25 lbs (add 5 for stays)
have not actually used this yet in the past i used a sd clip flashlight- great for the 90s but heavy by todays standards

Dustin Fritterling
(medylami) - F

Locale: Southeast
i can't believe this is "heavy" on 04/17/2009 15:28:43 MDT Print View

GG Vapor Trail = 30 oz.
TT Rainbow = 34 oz.
Montbell SS #3 Long = 25 oz.
Trimmed Z-lite = 12 oz.

Total = 101 oz. = 6.3 lbs.

Thanks guys for making me feel overweight. Jeez.

Edited by medylami on 04/17/2009 15:29:46 MDT.


Locale: Pacific Northwet
Re: Big Three on 04/17/2009 15:34:23 MDT Print View

Pack: ULA Conduit 21 oz
Bag: BPL (Nunatak) Arc X down quilt 16 oz
Pad: Neo Air (R) 14 oz
Shelter: Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo e 23 oz

4 lbs 10 oz

If I include my pillows (these are dedicated sleep system components) it adds 6 oz for a total weight of 5 lbs.

Art Sandt
(artsandt) - F
big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 15:39:09 MDT Print View

pack - ULA Circuit 32oz
shelter - MLD duomid 15oz
bag - MB Super Stretch 15 degree bag (long) 39oz
pad - Thermarest ridgerest "deluxe" 18oz

pack - Zpacks zilch with hipbelt 5oz
shelter - solo cat tarp 8oz
bag - Golite ultra 20 quilt 19oz (sometimes swap out for 40 degree synthetic quilt that weighs 14oz)
pad - Gossamer Gear 3/8" ccf pad cut to 2/3-length 4.5oz (sometimes add in an inflatable Torsolite for another 8.7oz)

Total weight of big 4 for set-up 1: 6.5 pounds
Total weight of big 4 for set-up 2: 2.3 pounds

I tend to use set-up 1 exclusively in spring and fall conditions, while I use set up 2 exclusively in the summer. Although the Montbell SS bag is quite a bit heavier than the Utra 20 quilt, it is WAY more comfortable than pretty much any bag I've ever used, so I don't mind a few extra ounces for the stretchability. Ditto for the Duomid. Yeah, it's a bit heavy, but it's a very cozy all-sides-protected shelter. Also, it's worth noting that I almost always use quilts with bivies. Especially in the summer, I tend to want a net-hooded, fully sealable bug bivy, which adds another 5 ounces to my "shelter" weight.

Edited by artsandt on 04/17/2009 15:46:13 MDT.

Zack Karas
( - MLife

Locale: Lake Tahoe
3+1 on 04/17/2009 15:54:33 MDT Print View

thru-hiker setup:
pack: Golite Jam 16 oz modified
bag: WM Pod 30 17oz
tent: SMD Lunar Solo 24oz
pad: Ridgerest 30" 5.5 oz
total: 62.5oz or 3.9 lbs

fastpack setup
pack: Golite 24 19oz modified
bag: Down pants and synthetic jacket 16oz
tent: Bibler Winter Bivy 9oz
pad: GG 1/8" 2oz
total: 46oz or 2.9 lbs

Richard Gless
(rgless) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Whats your weight for the big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 15:55:49 MDT Print View

For my UL "fanatic fringe" summer 2-3 day hikes:

pack - Zpack Zilch - 4 oz
bag - Nunatuk Arc Specialist 19 oz
shelter - Gatewood Cape w pole and stakes 15.5 oz; SMD serenity net 7.5 oz
pad - NeoAir short 9.5 oz

Total - 56 oz - 3 lbs 8 oz or so

This works well for me for the California Sierras with low temperatures down to about 40'F or so.

Edited by rgless on 04/21/2009 11:06:29 MDT.

Tad Englund
(bestbuilder) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 16:05:47 MDT Print View

Pack: GG "G5", 7.5 oz
Tent: Gatewood Cape W/stakes and lines, 13.6 oz
Bag: WM Megalite, 26 oz
Pad: BA Clearview, 15 oz

Total 62.1oz = 3.88 lbs

Pack: Might use Jam2 add 13.9 oz
Tent: for bugs, GG bug canopy add 3 oz
Pad: for cold weather Theromrest Guide Lite add 19.5 oz
Total 98.4 oz = 6.15 lb

ben wood

Locale: flatlands of MO
Re: Whats your weight for the big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 16:08:36 MDT Print View

pack - GG nimbus latitude - 50 oz.
bag - REI sub kilo - 31 oz.
shelter - tyvek tarp - 15 oz.
pad z lite short - 11 oz.

for a grand total of 107 oz. or 6.68 lbs.
i know the pack is heavy, but i like it way too much.

Jared Cook
(rooinater) - F

Locale: Northwet
Re: Whats your weight for the big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 16:20:38 MDT Print View

MYOG Tarptent-for-2 - 26 oz

Golite Jam2 - 21 oz

NEOair small - 9.1 oz

Golite Ultra20 Quilt 19.3 oz

4lbs 11.2oz, by summer though for solo Hikes I'll have the solo tarp and bivy sewn, along with my golite ion modified to work with all my gear and food. So figure by summer I'll have dropped 20+ oz, my big 3 will weigh about 3lbs 7.4oz or less...

Are you including the weight of your stakes and guylines in your shelter weight? Mine are all included in.

Edited by rooinater on 04/17/2009 16:28:41 MDT.

Michael Davis
(mad777) - F

Locale: South Florida
Re: big 3+1 on 04/17/2009 16:21:07 MDT Print View

Backpack: ULA Amp w/front & hip-belt pockets @ 14.6 oz

Homemade synthetic quilt @ 13.1 oz + 2.5 oz dry bag = 15.6 oz

POE Max Thermo 48"x20" synthetic insulated inflatable pad @ 15.0 oz + Montbell inflatable pillow @ 2.7 oz = 17.7 oz

Tarptent Rainbow w/guy lines @ 32.6 oz + 3.2 oz silnylon ground cloth + 8 stakes & snubber @ 3.8 oz = 39.6 oz

Grand Total 87.5 oz or 5.5 lbs and I'm very happy with my comfort to weight ratio ... of course ... I could get the small Neoair & save 6 oz ... Oh no! Here I go!

Edited by mad777 on 04/18/2009 08:53:14 MDT.