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Michael Meiser
(mmeiser) - F

Locale: Michigan
beer can pots on 08/26/2011 18:55:31 MDT Print View

Yeah... this gives me an idea... since used beer cans are ubiquitous why carry a pot at all. /sarcasm

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: beer can pots on 08/26/2011 19:52:54 MDT Print View

The big advantage of the aluminum beer bottle over the aluminum beer can is that the bottle has a reclosable screw cap.

--B.G.--

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Water bottles for boiling on 08/26/2011 21:42:02 MDT Print View

Sure. I found the H2Go one liter stainless bottle that looks like a Nalgene plastic bottle and has a near identical lid, so you can pop it off for boiling. I have made essentials/survival kits with them, so you have the 10+ essentials, water container and boiler all in one package. They are about the same weight as a Nalgene at 6.7oz. Of course that is heavy in the UL world but there should be some discount for multiple use. I've wondered if a thinner version couldn't be made. I've assumed that the manufacturer wanted something tougher that UL folk would be willing to put up with. It may be because of available metal stock or the forming process would damage lighter gauge metal.

Anyway, sure, you can boil with one on a stove or in a campfire. Moving one that is full of hot water and fresh off the fire is the challenge.

Michael Meiser
(mmeiser) - F

Locale: Michigan
Re: Re: Water bottles for boiling on 08/27/2011 05:21:47 MDT Print View

Re: h2go SS wide mouth 40oz water bottle

Good size for a boiler and water holder, looks a little heavy though:

http://www.mylogoimprinted.com/products/6167-h2go-wide-40-oz-stainless-steel-water-bottle-white

To bad they don't make it in aluminum

te - wa
(mikeinfhaz) - F

Locale: Phoenix
Re: Re: beer can pots on 09/07/2011 14:01:17 MDT Print View

my local grocer is promoting the mug/beer combo pack from Paulaner. the beer can appears to be about a liter, maybe 1/3 larger than the older Heini cans (NO longer made) and I was looking at it for a cookpot..
however, with a $4 mug and a $5 beer at best, the $15 price seems a bit off-centered. Unlike the quality of a Heineken, which will prompt a quick death by sink drain, this Oktoberfest-Martzen is worth drinking. so, win-win? I can imagine how many of these perfectly usable cans are being tossed in the trash as I speak...

anyone else seen this? they are likely in nearly every grocer.

Edited by mikeinfhaz on 09/07/2011 14:10:02 MDT.

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(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: Re: Re: beer can pots on 09/09/2011 00:18:34 MDT Print View

I am glad to see this thread still alive...

If only these were a bit bigger and Ti. Nonetheless, an interesting option:

http://www.amazon.com/LunchBots-Stainless-Leak-Proof-Container-16-Ounce/dp/B0044R7VUM%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAJPYALGEUAWN2DKSQ%26tag%3Ddesignsweats-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB0044R7VUM

SS Bot

Bart Newton
(bwnewton)
Example of using stainless steel bottle to boil water on 09/05/2012 22:05:27 MDT Print View

These stainless steel bottles sold by Wiggy's are quite heavy but if you click on "more info" there is an interesting real-life application on why a stainless steel water bottle for boiling water would be great for some survival situations: http://wiggys.com/category.cfm?category=1

Kenneth Jacobs
(f8less) - F

Locale: Midwest
Re: Kleen Kanteens on 09/05/2012 22:51:25 MDT Print View

@ Jason Klass

Vargo makes Ti bottles, including their BOT (Bottle Pot):

http://www.vargooutdoors.com/Titanium-Water-Bottles

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
aluminum beer bottles on 09/06/2012 00:19:20 MDT Print View

Bob: +1 on the 16 ounce beer bottle.

Very light, completely cheap if you dumpster-dive at the recycling station.

If you need a liter, bring two. Make an oblong chimney for your canister stove or wood stove set-up. Put two 16-ounce bottles in. They have more surface area and will therefore heat faster than a single 1-liter bottle.

Erik Basil
(EBasil) - M

Locale: Atzlan
Bier und Volcano on 09/06/2012 07:04:18 MDT Print View

I've been storing/hoarding up 12 oz aluminum screw-top bottles that had protein drink in them...same as the beer bottles but shorter and with a raw finish on the outside (plastic sleeve peeled off), but I am reminded of the thick-walled, cork-stoppered "Swiss Volcano Stove" bottles that are certainly robust enough to put right into a fire. What's one of those weigh?

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Re: Bier und Volcano on 09/06/2012 09:53:33 MDT Print View

Erik,

Me, too. I set aside a 12-pack (having consumed the contents) of 16-ounce beer aluminum bottles because they seemed very thick and sturdy - much, much more so than a 16- or 24-ounce energy drink aluminum can with a screw top. And I wondered if they'd (1) be discontinued or (2) if it catches on, be optimized with much thinner aluminum as soda cans have been over the years. The large energy drink cans with screw tops (Rockstar, etc) are like overlarge soda cans and very prone to dimpling and crushing. Yeah, I know, we try to be UL and all; but 35-40 grams for water bottle AND cooking pot is okay by me, it doesn't have to 20 grams if 20 grams is so flimsy.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Water bottles for boiling on 09/06/2012 11:01:10 MDT Print View

H2Go made some wide mouth stainless bottles that were close to Nalgene weights. The newer Stanley water bottles are a couple ounces less than the Klean Kanteen equivalent.

I applaud your effort to simplify and consolidate your kit, but a Platypus or recycled water bottle with a Ti pot are lighter and more versatile than any stainless bottles I have found to date. If you are trying to save space as well as weight, simply store your water container in your pot.

I looked at a lot of stainless bottles with the idea of creating one person essentials/survival kits that I could give to a hiking companion who was not suitably equipped. I wanted a wide mouth like a Nalgene so I could store items inside and provide a means of cooking or boiling water for purification. The H2Go bottle was the best I found. Unfortunately, they are hard to find for one- off purchase and are normally sold through promotional supply houses.