Wood Heated Shelter for less than 3 lbs.
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Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Wood Heated Shelter for less than 3 lbs. on 03/07/2009 19:36:53 MST Print View

I recently compleated a project of a wood heated shelter with a total weight of 2 lbs 12 oz

I started with a GoLite ShrangiLa 2 and sewed in a fiberglass stove jack. I then removed all the adjustable webbibg stake outs with their fastex buckles. The tent pegs were replaced with Vargo Ti pegs. Weight does not include trekking poles which are necessary.

The stove is made from a stainless steel canister with threaded legs, brass rectangular tubing pot supports and a Ti Goat titanuim pipe/damper set up.

The reason for this project was not only to break the 3 lb barrier, but to have a stove that need very little assembly.

I have been building wood stoves since 1974 and designed the current model Kifaru stove, ( And manufactured them for 7 years until I had no time to play or write.)

Cylinder Stove

Cylinder stove with pot supports.







Ed

Edited by runsmtns on 03/23/2009 19:45:11 MDT.

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
More Photos on 03/07/2009 20:01:38 MST Print View

Snow Peak Ti Kettle on wood stove

Snow Peak Ti Kettle on wood stove.

Edited by runsmtns on 03/07/2009 20:04:06 MST.

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Another Photo on 03/07/2009 20:10:09 MST Print View

Ti Kettle fits inside stove for transport.

Kettle fits inside stove for transport

Edited by runsmtns on 03/07/2009 20:10:41 MST.

Mark Edgren
(mackgren) - F
cool on 03/07/2009 20:39:15 MST Print View

wow nice job on the stove! Do you have any pics of the stove and GoLite shelter assembled?

Brian UL
(MAYNARD76)

Locale: New England
Re: Wood Heated Shelter for less than 3 lbs. on 03/07/2009 20:47:26 MST Print View

Can a stove that small really heat up a ShrangiLa 2?
I have no experience hot camping so Im curious.
I imagine you will have to really be on the ball feeding wood to a stove that size?

Ron D
(dillonr) - MLife

Locale: Colorado
Re: Wood Heated Shelter for less than 3 lbs. on 03/07/2009 21:09:00 MST Print View

Ed - It's incredible you got the weight down that low for a heated winter shelter.

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Cylinder Stove on 03/07/2009 21:21:03 MST Print View

I will post some pictures soon with the stove in the shelter.

The stove dimensions are 4.75 diameter and 6.75 long.

Yes a stove this small will put out a lot of heat as well as being able to provide for all cooking functions.

Small stoves do require more attension but at that point I am just sitting or laying around the tent anyway. Sure is nice to crawl into the sleeping bag totally warm.

Iv'e been using wood heated nylon shelters since 1985 and except in the heat of summer, they are my first choice.

Edited by runsmtns on 03/07/2009 21:25:34 MST.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Wood Heated Shelter for less than 3 lbs. on 03/07/2009 21:22:28 MST Print View

For some very light weight stoves check out Ti Goat Here.

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Heated Shelter on 03/07/2009 21:27:06 MST Print View

I had done a Golite Hex 3 with stove that came in at 5 lbs and my goal with the SH 2 was to get under 3.5. When my first version came in at 3 lb 4 oz, I was sure that 3 lbs could be broken. I was actually suprised at getting to 2 lb 12 oz.

Ed

Joseph Reeves
(Umnak)

Locale: Southeast Alaska
Wow, wood heated shelter < 3lbs on 03/07/2009 21:37:12 MST Print View

Amazing. You have really set the benchmark for making a stove a possibility for hiking. Let us know if you plan to manufacture these. It was 9 the last night we spent on the beach.

Fred eric
(Fre49) - MLife

Locale: France, vallée de la Loire
stove on 03/08/2009 01:41:48 MST Print View

it looks great !.

I ordered a Ti Goat cylinder stove a month and a half ago, but didnt recieve it yet so i didnt experience how hard is it to assembly it, but sure it doesnt look that easy with cold hands.
I was already thinking about the alternative of a one piece small cylinder stove, and im happy to see this is doable.
Unless you plan to sell those, i am very curious about how you do the connection between the pipe and the stove.

frederic

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Re Wood heated shelter for less than 3 lbs on 03/08/2009 01:55:20 MST Print View

Looks fantastic. At these weights, i would start to think about carrying a wood stove.

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Pipe/Stove Connection on 03/08/2009 08:37:59 MDT Print View

Frederic,

There are a couple ways to join/support the pipe ( which is titanium foil) at the stove.

My 1st version used a collar, a short piece of 30 gauge stainless that is rooled into a cylinder. This has pop rivits pertruding out to set on the stove top.

The 2nd version used a Ti-Goat damper plate which sets on the stove top to keep the pipe from sliding into the stove. This also has a screened fitting that inserts into the stove pipe and actually extends into the stove. The screen is to prevent embers from burning your shelter.

A picture says a 1000 words so here you go:

Damper Plate & Screen

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Pipe on stove on 03/08/2009 08:40:06 MDT Print View

Pipe Damper

Tim Marshall
(MarshLaw303) - MLife

Locale: Minnesota
Re: Pipe on stove on 03/08/2009 09:24:19 MDT Print View

is the cylinder a walmart flour container or something similar?

-Tim

Fred eric
(Fre49) - MLife

Locale: France, vallée de la Loire
photos on 03/08/2009 09:36:42 MDT Print View

Thanks ED for the photos and explanation :)

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Cylinder on 03/08/2009 09:38:59 MDT Print View

The clyinder is a stainless steel Planatery Designs Air Lock.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Cylinder on 03/08/2009 09:56:00 MDT Print View

Ed,
You give a total weight, but could you also provide the split between the Shangri-La 2 and the stove?

With the Shangri-La 2 starting at 1# 13oz, getting a boot, and loosing some buckles, the stove seems amazingly light for stainless steel.

Thanks.

Ed Tyanich
(runsmtns) - F - M
Stove/Shelter Weights on 03/08/2009 12:19:36 MDT Print View

Greg,

Here is how the weight brakes down:
Stove complete 21 oz, SH 2 23 oz.

The stove with legs: 14 oz.

4' Titanium foil pipe with damper, ember screen and pipe rings: 7 oz

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Stove/Shelter Weights on 03/08/2009 12:45:05 MDT Print View

Thanks Ed.

This is quite an accomplishment.

Going to the extreme, if you consider something like the MLD Cuben DuoMid the weight drops another 13 ounces for a total of only 31 ounces.(A boot will bring it up a little.)

Unbelievably light for Shelter, Stove, And Heat.
Long winter nights start to seem a little more enjoyable.