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Nick Garcia
(saltamontes) - F

Locale: South Florida
Granite Gear Vapor Flash on 03/05/2009 18:30:37 MST Print View

I noticed this pack in the Backpacker Gear Guide, 3,600cu and weighs 3lbs 1oz, is this a new pack, I did not see it on the GG website, does it replace a pack or is it new thanks any feedback

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
Re on 03/05/2009 19:57:19 MST Print View

It is strange that it is not on the site. There is something with that name for sale on many sites;

http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/packdetail.cfm/GG377

Maybe they are coming out with an update but are not quite ready for prime-time...

William Puckett
(Beep) - F

Locale: Land of 11, 842 lakes
Re: Granite Gear Vapor Flash on 03/05/2009 20:05:09 MST Print View

Pic is from a retailer's website.

Vapor Flash

I'm assuming it has the Vapor suspension so it would be like a Vapor Trail with a lid rather than a roll top. So, think Nimbus Meridian but with the Vapor suspension rather than the beefier Nimbus "Tepex" frame/suspension. That would account for the 8 oz. weight difference.

Both suspensions are quite comfortable, though I find the Vapor is superior in my usage (which doesn't push the weight limits on the Vapor suspension. The Tepex is intended for heavier loads.

Edited by Beep on 03/05/2009 20:23:36 MST.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Granite Gear Vapor Flash on 03/05/2009 20:08:33 MST Print View

Go on the GG website and scroll to the bottom. Under Downloads (click the link) you will see two seaprate downloads - one for a manual to their packs and the other for the 2009 catalogue. Download the catalogue and the full range of new packs are there.

Don't ask me how I know this.

Edit - it is not a replacement for the Vapor Trail nor the Vapor Meridian.

Edited by FamilyGuy on 03/05/2009 20:09:16 MST.

Tom Caldwell
(Coldspring) - F

Locale: Ozarks
Granite Gear Vapor Flash on 03/05/2009 20:09:28 MST Print View

I hadn't seen it before. Looks like a heavier Vapor Trail to me. I'll keep dreaming that they put a big mesh pocket on the Vapor Trail, and design a lighter hipbelt with built in hipbelt pockets, and put some aerated material in the backpad. One thing I can say about my Vapor Trail, is that it doesn't even look broken in, no holes and no wear on the straps at all, and I've used it more than 10 days.

Slo Hiker
(SloHiker) - F

Locale: NC Foothills
Vapor Flash on 03/06/2009 07:13:54 MST Print View

My understanding is that it's a the same as the Meridian Vapor, constructed of slightly heavier fabrics - hence the same overall specs but just a few ounces heavier and $20 cheaper.

ben wood
(benwood)

Locale: flatlands of MO
Re: Vapor Flash on 03/06/2009 09:26:23 MST Print View

that's my understanding as well. also the compression straps run under the side pockets as opposed to over them, which was a complaint on the UL line of packs.

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
Granite Gear Vapor Flash... on 03/14/2009 14:23:12 MDT Print View

I thought I'd update this thread since my son brought one of these home a few days ago. He is not a light weight backpacker but is moving in the right direction. The Vapor Flash is 2 pounds lighter than his current pack and on my scale, the size Regular weighs 3lb. 5 oz. (4 oz heavier than advertised). This is actually not a bad weight for a pack that is really built to take punishment (210D Cordura - no sil-nylon) and will no doubt last a long time.

The pack has a removable top pocket that converts to a fanny pack. If you leave the lid behind you could drop 8 or 9 oz. off the weight of the pack, bringing it down to 2 lbs. 12 oz. The pack has a slight extension collar (not like the ridiculous extension collar on my Vapor Trail) that can be rolled shut.

This would be an excellent pack for anybody that needs a durable pack or if you are making the move to light weight but still aren't sure about switching to the more fragile pack materials.

Granite Gear has changed the compression straps that cross over the side bottle pockets. You now have a choice of running the straps over the pockets or running them through holes in the edges of the pockets to allow you to pass the straps behind the contents of the pocket... nice feature.

Edit: Finally figured out how to get the fanny pack lid off without cutting the strap - apologies to Granite Gear.

Edited by skopeo on 03/19/2009 01:07:27 MDT.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Granite Gear Vapor Flash on 03/14/2009 17:07:46 MDT Print View

Interesting. It still seems far too heavy for what it is. I will have to see one in person I guess. If I wanted a climbing pack I would be looking at the Osprey Variant series with the multiple external attachments, removable bivy pad and components for a similar weight with a more aggressive harness.

Darren McClintock
(Darren) - MLife
vapor flash on 03/14/2009 17:44:12 MDT Print View

Does anyone know if this is strictly a top loader or a panel loader like the vapor meridian? I'm interested, but already have a vapor trail, so if it's top only it wouldn't be worth it just for a lid and some heavier fabrics.

Jeff Jeff
(TwoFortyJeff) - F
Re: Granite Gear Vapor Flash on 03/14/2009 19:16:08 MDT Print View

You could name it the "ULA Circuit" ;)

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Vapor Flash, a heavier, less featured ULA Circuit on 03/14/2009 21:34:08 MDT Print View

Jeff - that is exactly what I was thinking....!

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
Vapor Flash on 03/14/2009 21:55:21 MDT Print View

Darren -

The Flash is the Meridian Vapor without the zipper (and in a heavy weight fabric). If you already have the Vapor Trail then buying the Flash would be going backwards IMHO.

I'm not sure I'd compare a Dyneema pack to Cordura... I suspect the Cordura would be more puncture resistant but I'd be interested in hearing comments from others as I have the MLD Exodus (Dyneema) on order.

Edited by skopeo on 03/14/2009 23:53:44 MDT.