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Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent on 02/02/2009 10:25:54 MST Print View

I have an all-mesh inner tent that I would like to convert to nylon -- to keep out sands and winds. Since the fly will protect against rain and heavy wnds, I am looking for an ultralight material for the inner. Can someone suggest a UL type of nylon and provide a web link -- hopefully not much heavier than the noseeum mesh material that it will replace? Thanks in advance.

Edited by ben2world on 02/02/2009 10:26:56 MST.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent on 02/03/2009 10:31:57 MST Print View

Bump. Where can I get some very light weight, white uncoated nylon for inner tent use? Anyone?

Brian Barnes
(brianjbarnes) - M

Locale: Midwest
RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/03/2009 10:45:36 MST Print View

Ben - Quest outfitters has some here:

http://www.questoutfitters.com/fabric%20uncoated-cart.htm#1.1%20UNCOATED%20RIPSTOP

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/03/2009 13:55:00 MST Print View

Thanks, Brian.

Another question for you and anyone else who might know... is 1.1 oz. uncoated nylon ripstop appropriate for 3-season inner tent use?

Edited by ben2world on 02/03/2009 13:56:22 MST.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/03/2009 14:04:57 MST Print View

Hi Ben

One of these days we must get you to actually become a subscriber to BPL. We NEED subscribers in this recession.

Check the usual sources like OWFINC, Seattle, Thru_Hiker etc for 1.1 oz uncoated nylon or ripstop.

Used for an inner for 3-season tents? Sure - rather warm in mid-summer in the desert, but why not? After all, if the stuff suits 4-season use in a howling gale in the snow ...

Cheers

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/03/2009 14:25:01 MST Print View

Thanks, Roger. I think I will use 1.1 oz. uncoated nylon ripstop and add a few mesh-backed zippable windows for better "all season" use.

BTW, I am a BPL subscriber -- unless there are other subscriptions out there?

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/03/2009 19:12:32 MST Print View

Hi Ben

So you are! Congratulations and welcome!

Now, who else can we rope in?

Cheers

Jim W.
(jimqpublic) - MLife

Locale: So-Cal
Now, who else can we rope in? on 02/03/2009 21:24:59 MST Print View

Roger,

I signed up just a few days back. The impetus were your MYOG articles on the sleeved poncho, clothing, and articles on stoves. Thanks!

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Now, who else can we rope in? on 02/03/2009 23:44:57 MST Print View

OK folks, keep them rolling in!

cheers

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/04/2009 00:38:11 MST Print View

Moderator engaging in thread hijack? What is our world coming to? :)

Anyone knows how much heavier is 1.1oz nylon over noseeum mesh?

Edited by ben2world on 02/04/2009 00:40:17 MST.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/04/2009 02:36:57 MST Print View

Hi Ben

> Anyone knows how much heavier is 1.1oz nylon over noseeum mesh?
I have no-see-um mesh weighing 24 gsm and 32 gsm from USA.
Silnylon typically weighs about 49 gsm.
Uncoated ripstop nylon weighs from 32 gsm upwards. (I used that weight in my winter tent.)
Pertex Microlight weighs 43-44 gsm.

Cheers

Edited by rcaffin on 02/04/2009 03:13:57 MST.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
RE: "UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent" on 02/04/2009 08:17:19 MST Print View

Ben,
0.7 ounce Nanoseum is at Thru-Hiker.

Jim W.
(jimqpublic) - MLife

Locale: So-Cal
Make sure weight is per square yard and not sailmaker's yard. on 02/04/2009 08:32:34 MST Print View

If the kite stores are using sail materials and quoting the manufacturers' data they might be using sailmaker's yards.

To convert weight from sailmaker's yards to square yards, multiply by 1.26.

From the glossary at Sailmaker.com:
sailmaker's yard:
An English/American unit of area for measuring the weight of sailcloth. It is 28.5 inches wide by 36 inches long. To say a piece of cloth is 6.5 ounce means a piece measuring 28.5" by 36" would weigh 6.5 ounces. This rather strange "yard" seems to be a remnant from the days when it was universally agreed that no one would ever be able to build a loom wider than 28.5 inches which would weave sail cloth. (Today 54 inches is common.)

Can we please convert to the metric system? I'm getting sick of ounces, pounds, fluid ounces, chains, rods, furlongs, miles, feet, yards, sailmaker's yards, etc.

Edited by jimqpublic on 02/04/2009 08:34:52 MST.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Make sure weight is per square yard and not sailmaker's yard. on 02/04/2009 09:58:20 MST Print View

Thanks, everyone!

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
Re: UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent on 02/04/2009 11:30:15 MST Print View

Ben,

I have several rolls of olive 1.1 oz uncoated that I use
to make bivys. Some in 45" width and some in extra wide
72" width. Sell some for $3 and $5 linear yard respectively,
or $2 and $4 if you take Rodgers advice and become a BPL
member ;^).
Postage paid in US.

PM

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: UL Uncoated Nylon for Inner Tent on 02/04/2009 12:26:51 MST Print View

David, thanks for the offer -- esp. the additional discount for members! Alas, I wish they were white color...

BTW, the red "M" next to a person's handle indicates BPL membership. Will you be signing up for yours? :)

Edited by ben2world on 02/04/2009 12:28:32 MST.

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
30d on 02/04/2009 12:52:36 MST Print View

I get a sub. every year, just haven't re-upped lately can't
spare the cash this time of year.