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Rick Cheehy
(kilgoretrout2317) - F

Locale: Virginia
Seeking trip beta on 12/27/2008 10:37:50 MST Print View

Howdy, Me and the Mrs are going on a winter trek on Assateague Island National Seashore. Anybody out there done this or a similar winter on the ocean type trip? All of our experience and gear are based on 3 season Appalachian and Smokies trips. Whose got my tips?! Thanks and happy light year.

Rick Cheehy
(kilgoretrout2317) - F

Locale: Virginia
Assateague Island National Seashore on 12/27/2008 13:39:30 MST Print View

Does anyone sell ul sand anchors?

Rick Cheehy
(kilgoretrout2317) - F

Locale: Virginia
Re: Assateague Island National Seashore on 12/27/2008 19:05:36 MST Print View

Is there backcountry in the outer banks?

Jamie Shortt
(jshortt) - MLife

Locale: North Carolina
Seeking trip beta on 12/27/2008 19:16:44 MST Print View

Rick, I haven't been to Assateague since 1989 and then it was only car camping, but I thought there was some backcountry camping. Here is a website that has a few details.

It was a great place, I'm sure it will be fantastic in the winter. Enjoy!

Jamie

http://www.assateagueisland.com/assateague_camping.htm#backcountrycamp


Info from Site:

Backcountry Camping

Available Campsites:
2 oceanside & 4 bayside
Tingles Island & Pine Tree (up to 5 groups and/or 25 people), Little levels, Green Run (up to 4 groups and/or 20 people), Pope Bay (up to 2 groups and/or 10 people) and State Line
- The distance from the Ranger Station in Maryland to backcountry sites range from 2 ½ to 13 miles.
- The nearest backcountry campsites from the Toms Cove Visitor Center in Virginia are State Line and Pope Bay (each about 12.5 miles).
Rates:
$5 backcountry permit is required.
Reservation System:
Permits are issued on a first-come, first-served basis on the day of departure. Due to sudden changes in weather, advance reservations are not accepted.
- No fresh water is available at any backcountry site.

Rick Cheehy
(kilgoretrout2317) - F

Locale: Virginia
Re: Seeking trip beta on 12/28/2008 18:51:27 MST Print View

Thanks, man I hate lugging water around, I wonder if there's a good place to stash some.

Rick Cheehy
(kilgoretrout2317) - F

Locale: Virginia
sand anchors on 12/30/2008 18:13:09 MST Print View

Anybody out there an expert in sand anchors? I'm trying to figure out if I should get the cloth or metal.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: sand anchors on 12/30/2008 19:18:11 MST Print View

I would not call myself an expert in sand anchors, although I do pitch on sand banks a bit. I normally use long dead sticks however, collected at the site. I find a 2' stick of 1/2" diameter is usually enough when poked straight in.

I think metal sand anchors would need to be rather large if the sand is dry - maybe 6" square. That gets a bit heavy if you have a number of them. If you have one piece of hard Al sheet about 6" square or more and maybe 0.5 mm thick, with a slight fold down the middle (or a Snow Claw) you can use that to dig holes to bury things - including fabric anchors. At least the sand shouldn't freeze solid overnight! :-)

Cheers

Rick Cheehy
(kilgoretrout2317) - F

Locale: Virginia
Re: Re: sand anchors on 12/31/2008 17:41:11 MST Print View

Long sticks, that's the ticket right there. 0 oz's are the best oz's. Thanks.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: Re: sand anchors on 12/31/2008 18:39:53 MST Print View

While I do not normally carry a knife of any sort (apart from a butter knife), a small pocket knife can be useful with sticks. Sharpen one end to make them go in easier.

Sharpening tent stakes

Cheers

Mike Clelland
(mikeclelland) - MLife

Locale: The Tetons (via Idaho)
sand and zero tent stakes on 01/01/2009 07:52:15 MST Print View

No need for a knife, or even carrying anything extra.

Read this article!
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/ditch_your_stakes.htmlstik