Updated Summer List, 3 day 2 night, No rain weather
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(edude) - F
Updated Summer List, 3 day 2 night, No rain weather on 12/13/2008 16:45:50 MST Print View

Here is my updated summer list to apply to those weekends where rain is is not in the forecast at all.(3 days 3 nights)

*Items I have yet to obtain

Clothing Worn While Hiking

1.Exoffico Nylon Pants
2.Hiking T-shirt
3.Hiking Socks
4.Poly-Pro Liner Socks
5.Baseball Cap
6.Trekking poles(w/3ft duct tape on each one)
7.Lightweight Hiking Boots
8.Sunglasses


Extra Clothing Packed

1.Fleece Pullover - 14oz.
2.Emergency Poncho - 2oz.

Total Weight of Extra Clothing - 16 oz.

Sleep System/Core

1.Blast 26 Backpack w/additoinal features - 4.4oz.*
2.3/4 length sleeping pad - 7oz.
3.Homemade Tyvek bivy w/no zipper - 4 oz.?*
4.Slumberjack 20F Bag - 49 oz.

Total Weight of Sleeping System - 28.4 oz.

Cooking (2 hot dinners)(in same stuff sack as food)

1.Pot w/lid - 3.1 oz.
2.Homemade Esbit Stove - 0.2 oz.
3.2 Esbit Tabs - 1 oz.*
4. Light My Fire Spork - 0.35 oz.
5. 15 matches & 1 trick birthday candle in mini ziploc - 0.2 oz.
6.Cottage Cheese Bowl - 0.5 oz.
7.Stuff Sack For Bearbagging - 1 oz.
8. Aluminum Foil Windsceen - 0.4 oz.
9.Trash Bag - 1 oz
10. 20 ft Paracord - 2 oz.
11.Platypus Platy Sport Water Bottle - 0.7 oz.*

Total Weight of Cooking - 10.45 oz.

Other (in ziploc bag)
1. Silva Orienteering Compass - 2 oz.
2.Map of area - 1 oz ?
3.TP:(10) 4in*4in Blue Shop Towels - 1oz
4.Bandanna - 1oz.
5.12in*12in Microfiber towel - 2oz.
6.Minor Wound Care Supplies w/Bic lighter (1/2 full of fuel)- 2.5 oz.
7.1.5 fl.oz. Sunsceen - 2.1 oz.
8. 0.5 oz bottle of Purrel - 0.6 oz

Total of Other - 12.2 oz.

Hydration

1.Platypus Big Zip SL 2L Hydration
Bladder 70 oz. - 4oz.*
2.Katadyn Hiker Filter - 11 oz.*

Total Weight of Hydration - 15 oz.

Total Weight of Base Weight in Pack -
129 oz. = apx 8lbs.

I figure if I save all the money I get by doing work from my neighbors, I can have enough to get all or most of the stuff I don't have yet by next summer.

Feedback Appreciated!

Edited by edude on 12/13/2008 17:58:00 MST.

Roman Ryder
(RomanLA) - F

Locale: Southwest Louisiana
8lbs on 12/13/2008 17:38:13 MST Print View

I'm right at 8lbs too, if you want to compare lists.
http://www.backpackinglight.com/backpackinglight/forums/gear_lists/7920f9c1a74502d0247666405fe1a62e.pdf

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Updated Summer List, 3 day 2 night, No rain weather on 12/13/2008 17:56:47 MST Print View

Cool Roman, I see you've got a good sophisticated list for a small amount of weight, some good ideas in your list.

Thanks!

Mike Clelland
(mikeclelland) - MLife

Locale: The Tetons (via Idaho)
List, 3 day 2 night, No rain on 12/13/2008 18:19:13 MST Print View

Platypus Platy Sport Water Bottle - 0.7 oz.* (?)

(and)

Platypus Big Zip SL 2L Hydration Bladder 70 oz. - 4oz.* (?)

Above : you've listed TWO water bottles? What for? Just take the two liter version (is it hoze version? You can leave the hoze behind too)

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12in*12in Microfiber towel - 2oz. - - - A towel AND a bandana? You don't need both.


1.5 fl.oz. Sunscreen - 2.1 oz. - - - TOO much, repackage in a smaller bottle. You have long pants.

Katadyn Hiker Filter - 11 oz.* - - - Use a chemical treatment like AQUA-MIRA, and save a LOT. You are in Northern Idaho, right? That's the cleanest water in the world!

Cottage Cheese Bowl - 0.5 oz. - - - A bowl AND a pot? Eat out of the pot. Nix the bowl.

Fleece Pullover - 14oz. - - - Fleece is heavier than a PUFFY jacket. Invest in a puffy DOWN jacket.

Slumberjack 20F Bag - 49 oz. - - - A THREE pound sleeping bag for summer? You should invest in a 40 degree down bag, and save a LOT of weight.

Homemade Tyvek bivy w/no zipper - 4 oz.?* - - - Why a take a bivy if the weather is clear? What purpose is it serving? Have you tried this? It may be really clammy and soak your sleeping bag.


TP:(10) 4in*4in Blue Shop Towels - 1oz - - - The toilet paper is NOT a necessity, you can easily leave it behind. (really)

Trash Bag - 1 oz - - - A trash bag should NOT weigh one once, Just use an empty food bag after the first meal.

Lightweight Hiking Boots - - - Go with sneakers!!! That the whole reason to have a light pack - to ditch the booots!


Emergency Poncho 20z - - - What emergency will it solve? I don't know what purpose it'll serve? If you are going without a shelter - go without a shelter!

No spoon?

No warm hat?

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The two biggies are the sleeping bag and the Water filter. Next is the fleece pullover. Revise these biggies and you'll be stylin'

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Just so you know, I go out without a shelter ALL the time in the summer, in idaho! I love the freedom. I figure, the worst that happens is I walk until the rain stops. It's never happened (Knock wood).

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: List, 3 day 2 night, No rain on 12/13/2008 18:31:04 MST Print View

And God help him if he gets sick on his trip and is without shelter when that forecasted clear weather doesn't remain clear.

The BPL employees recommending forum members to go without shelter (in form of tarp or raingear) should be adding lengthy disclaimers to their posts so the lawyers don't come looking for ya if/when something bad happens.

Matt Lutz
(citystuckhiker) - F

Locale: Midwest
Lawyers? on 12/13/2008 19:10:30 MST Print View

Two words: contributory negligence.

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
RE: Lawers? on 12/13/2008 19:13:42 MST Print View

Don't worry John, I feel totally comfortable with no shelter. Besides, I can improvise with my emergency poncho. I am also a competant shelter builder if storm clouds are forming above me before bed.

Besides, I would'nt sue a fellow backapcker anyway!

Edited by edude on 12/13/2008 19:26:33 MST.

Mike Clelland
(mikeclelland) - MLife

Locale: The Tetons (via Idaho)
lawyers? on 12/13/2008 19:33:24 MST Print View

"Here is my updated summer list to apply to those weekends where rain is is not in the forecast at all.(3 days 3 nights)"

Evan wrote the above for the opening of his post.

Maybe it is bold to go into the mountains without a shelter, but it IS a tried and true technique for lightening the load. When I go out with a good weather forecast, I try hard to take NOTHING that I don't need.

I feel very strongly that there is a need to share my insights at as high a standard as I can. It would be a disservice to the readers if I "self-edited" in a way that would minimize what I share.

He asked for help, and I gave him an answer that is bold, but it feels appropriate. Hiking all night in the rain to stay warm IS an option.

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
RE: Lawers? on 12/13/2008 19:36:42 MST Print View

Thanks Mike for your boldness. Ultralight Backpacking wouldn't exist if those who seek a light load would not be bold and step up to share and debate their ideas.

Edited by edude on 12/13/2008 19:40:34 MST.

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Updated Summer List, 3 day 2 night, No rain weather on 12/13/2008 19:41:48 MST Print View

Sorry Mike I meant 3 day 2 night (I just edited that)

Matt Lutz
(citystuckhiker) - F

Locale: Midwest
List improvements on 12/13/2008 19:51:43 MST Print View

I'll echo everything Mike said, and I'll add a few things:

Lose the fleece pull over - get a puffy jacket and you're never wear fleece on your torso in 3+ season conditions ever again. Ever. Mike recommended down, I'm partial to a synthetic parka in summer conditions. I know you said you're expecting great weather but this is my preference.

Get a 40 degree quilt and lost almost 35 ounces, or more. You could also get a 2/3 quilt (a la MLD) and use the puffy jacket for torso insulation. Also, get a thin fleece hat and some Powerstretch Gloves. Each should weigh 1 to 1.5 ounces and are worth the weight.

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Sleeping bags on 12/14/2008 13:23:39 MST Print View

How about a Backpacking Light PRO 60 Quilt?
It looks pretty expensive but looks like its worth the investment next year...

Edited by edude on 12/14/2008 13:56:59 MST.