Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions
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(edude) - F
Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 19:37:04 MST Print View

This is a(3 day,2 night) list I intend to use for next summer for those weekends where the forecast predicts a minute chance of rain or any kind of wind.

*Things I do not yet own

Clothing Worn/Items Carried While Hiking

1.Exoffico Nylon Pants
2.Hiking T-shirt
3.Hiking Socks
4.Poly-Pro Liner Socks
5.Baseball Cap
6.Trekking poles(w/3ft duct tape on each one)
7.Lightweight Hiking Boots
8.Sunglasses

Sleep system

1.Ultralight Rucksack(3000 cu.in.) able to carry 20 lbs. - max 16 ounce*
2.GI issue warm weather bag - 30oz.
3.3/4 length closed cell foam pad - 7oz.

Total weight of Sleep system - 53oz.

Cooking (with food in stuff sack for bear-bagging)

1.0.5L Pot w/Aluminum foil Lid - 3oz.
2.Light My Fire Spork - 0.35 oz.
3.Esbit Stove* - 3oz.
4.2Esbit Tabs*(for 2 hot dinners) - 1oz.
5.Bic lighter (1/2 full of fuel) - 1oz.
6.Aluminum foil windscreen - 0.5oz.
7.stuff sack for bear bagging - 1oz.
8.30ft.Paracord - 3oz.
9.Trash Bag - 1oz.

Total Weight of Cooking - 13.85oz.

Extra Clothing Packed

1.Fleece Jacket - 16oz.
2.Knit Hat - 3oz.
3.Wool Gloves - 2oz.
4.Emergency Poncho - 2oz.
5.Extra Hiking Socks - 3oz.
6.Extra pair of Poly pro liners - 2oz.

Total Weight of Extra Clothing Packed
- 28oz.

Hydration

1.CamelBak 101 fl.oz. Omega Hydration Bladder - 10oz. (I LOVE Water)
2.Katadyn Hiker Filter* - 11 oz.

Total Weight of Hydration - 21 oz.

Other(in Ziploc bag)

1.First Aid Kit - 5oz.
2.2 Bandannas - 2oz.
3.2oz Bottle DEET - 3oz.
4.2oz Bottle Sunscreen - 3.5oz.
5.Silva Orienteering Compass - 2oz.
6.Map of Area - ? (depending on where I'm going)
7.Mini LED Keychain light - 0.25oz.
8.Leatherman Squirt Multitool - 2oz.
9.15 matches and 1 trick birthday candle in mini ziploc bag - 0.25oz

Total Weight of 'Other' - 18 oz.

Toiletries

1.1 ounce bottle of Purrel - 2oz.
2.(10)4in.by 4in. Blue Shop Towels* in ziploc - 2oz.?
3.12in.by 12in. Microfiber towel - 2oz.

Total Weight of Toiletries - 6oz.

Total Weight of base weight carried on back - 139.85 oz. = 8.74 lbs.

How does It look? Feedback Appreciated!

Edited by edude on 12/09/2008 19:45:12 MST.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 19:49:35 MST Print View

This is for a weekend in summer, right? In that case ...

> 1.Fleece Jacket - 16oz.
> 2.Knit Hat - 3oz.
> 3.Wool Gloves - 2oz.
Why any of these? A very light fleece would be enough.

> 4.Emergency Poncho - 2oz.
Yep

> 5.Extra Hiking Socks - 3oz.
> 6.Extra pair of Poly pro liners - 2oz.
For a weekend? Why?

> 1.CamelBak 101 fl.oz. Omega Hydration Bladder - 10oz.
A couple of 1.25 L PET fizzy bottles would weigh far less and give the same capacity.

> 2.Katadyn Hiker Filter* - 11 oz.
Good, but HEAVY. I use a Steripen Adventurer - under 4 oz complete.
Other use chemicals - even lighter.

> 1.First Aid Kit - 5oz.
Bet you never use most of it.

> 3.2oz Bottle DEET - 3oz.
> 4.2oz Bottle Sunscreen - 3.5oz.
For two days? Get some mini containers.

> 8.Leatherman Squirt Multitool - 2oz.
Delete - you won't need it. I don't own any. And I don't carry a big knife either.

> 1.1 ounce bottle of Purrel - 2oz.
> 2.(10)4in.by 4in. Blue Shop Towels* in ziploc - 2oz.?
> 3.12in.by 12in. Microfiber towel - 2oz.
You could try a motel soap bar and some TP. Dry hands on shirt/trousers.

Cheers

Joshua Gilbert
(joshcgil2) - F

Locale: Seattle
RE: Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 20:42:32 MST Print View

I'm making some assumptions about where you are hiking and what conditions you will be faced with, so feel free to correct me.

Mountain west, highs around 80, lows near freezing?

I know you mentioned being on a budget in another thread, but that military sleeping bag is probably going to be worse than useless. heavy, cold and soaks up water and never drys, it's cotton right?)You can find a much lighter and still fairly cheap (although not 20$) options. Lafuma bags spring to mind, heck someone here is posting a homemade climashield quilt for 55$ shipped for like 22oz.

take that weight savings and take some kind of minimalist tarp or a ponch tarp (golite ones sell used on here for
35$ normally.)10 oz, it's still lighter than that bag.

I am assuming if you're in Idaho, you are going to be in the mountains, and it never hurts to assume that mountain weather will get squirrley from time to time.

also, aqua mira is your friend, so light, especialy in microdroppers. I would switch out the camelback for a platty big zip, and add a bike bottle or platty sport bottle (Like to have extra water container, just in case)

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
"Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions" on 12/09/2008 20:44:25 MST Print View

Thanks for your insight,Roger I will go and apply most of what you said,However,I will probobly choose the Katadyn Hiker for its ease of use,duribilty and low cost.Plus No Iodine or Crhlorine taste,both give me bad headache.

Edited by edude on 12/09/2008 20:46:47 MST.

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 20:45:54 MST Print View

Yes Joshua,Those are approx. the conditions I will apply this list to. Upper Preist Lake area.

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 20:48:23 MST Print View

Ditching the knife!

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 20:51:21 MST Print View

Actually Roger,
The GI issue sleeping bag is a thin canvas bag with buttons to close it.I also added some paracord to the cinch holes.I will look for a lighter hat,since it the bag is so minimal,but I will ditch the gloves in lieu of putting my hands in my pockets.

Edited by edude on 12/09/2008 20:52:11 MST.

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
"Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions" on 12/09/2008 21:59:13 MST Print View

OK,based on what you guys are telling me,It probobly would be best to ditch the Canvas Bag and start looking for a real bag that would keep me warm,right?

Jesse McKinney
(jessemckinney) - F

Locale: Mid-Atlantic
Shelter? on 12/09/2008 22:04:59 MST Print View

I did not see any kind of shelter. Are you planning on getting by for a night with the poncho and garbage bag for a night, or just keeping your itinerary within bail out range? It looks good though. I might try using esbit to save a little weight on alcohol.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
Summer, No rain weekend list, Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 22:07:54 MST Print View

Right-- Evan you need a good summer bag. WM Linelite!!
On another subject where do you hike at Priest Lake? We have a family cabin there. What hikes do you recommended in the area?

-Jay

Edited by Creachen on 12/09/2008 22:08:36 MST.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: "Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions" on 12/09/2008 22:30:04 MST Print View

> ditch the Canvas Bag and start looking for a real bag
Yep - sooner or later you need a real sleeping bag. My best advice is to go for a GOOD light summer bag, $$$ though it may cost. It will work out cheaper very quickly. But you don't have to buy a new one: monitor the Gear Swap channe3l for a while and you WILL find something suitable.

I'm biased, but I don't think you should be considering any 'sewn-through' bag at all. Yes, they are cheaper, but definitely not as good. Synthetic? I have my reservations. Down Quilt? Certainly! My preferred option.

For summer use a 32 F bag with thermals and a fleece top (or a cocoon!) will be quite enough imho. If the bag does not have a hood then you might want a warm hat of some sort, but I prefer a 'hood' on my quilt which i toss over my head.

Gloves? Never worn them in bed. Not even in the snow.

Cheers

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Summer,No rain weekend list,Need suggestions on 12/09/2008 22:30:30 MST Print View

Alright,I will look into another summer bag later,dut I do not have the funds to buy your WM Limelite right now,neither do my parents.And Another error on my part,I accidentaly wrote in that Upper Preist Lake was my favorite place to Backpack/Canoe.Well actually I've never been backapcking at either preist lakes(my scout troop is planning a trip there in July) but have been canoeing there a couple times. the campsites are good,but you have to put your food in these dumb bear cages so every time you want a snack you have to unlock the noisy thing.going to fix my profile now...

Unknown abc
(edude) - F
Summer,No rain weekend list no shelter on 12/09/2008 22:34:51 MST Print View

Actually Jesse,this list was intended for a weekend with no rain or any kind of wind in the forecast. Surely a competant shelter builder (me) does not have any reason to cut himself off from nature by lugging a tent or even tarp if the weather is promising and the bugs are not TOO bad.

Edited by edude on 12/11/2008 17:26:24 MST.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
Summer ,No rain weekend list on 12/09/2008 22:40:53 MST Print View

Hey Even, I have a bag I could give you-free!! No kidding
Slumberjack 20 degree, synthetic fill,good condition. PM with your address and I will send it to you for free. I just need you to cover shipping cost. I would say $10.00 would cover it. What say you?

Ashley Brown
(ashleyb) - F
Re: Summer ,No rain weekend list on 12/09/2008 22:42:44 MST Print View

I say you're a nice guy, Jay.